Great Hackers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba
    Good and hacker/cracker don't belong in the same sentence.
    I hope you're joking, right?

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    No I'm not joking. Hackers ruin the internet and ruin programming. They should all be put on a rocket and sent to the moon.

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    No, crackers ruin the internet and ruin programming. Hackers made the internet and improve programming.

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    I fail to see your logic.

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    Bubba orginally hacker was a term that was reserved for the most elite computer programmers that would "hack" away at programs until it worked. This was back in the time of punch cards and program tapes. The term has been mutated into what it is today.

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    Ok.

    I remember those days, but they are gone. Now hackers are usually script kiddies who don't know anything about code and who think it is cool to spell their name with ASCII characters.

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    Isn't the classification
    (1) White Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for good)
    (2) Black Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for bad)
    (3) Script Kiddy (Doesn't know much, but likes to create mischief.)

    caroundw5h
    the article you posted is pretty good.
    I'm half way through and it has some really good info.
    I'm not sure why they say that perl and python is the preffered language of hackers. Anyone want to put in an opinion on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xviddivxoggmp3
    Isn't the classification
    (1) White Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for good)
    (2) Black Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for bad)
    (3) Script Kiddy (Doesn't know much, but likes to create mischief.)
    Isn't that kind of racist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xviddivxoggmp3
    Isn't the classification
    (1) White Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for good)
    (2) Black Hacker (Very Knowledged and uses it for bad)
    (3) Script Kiddy (Doesn't know much, but likes to create mischief.)
    Actually a Script kiddie usally is the loser type who spends their time on the computer, downloading scripts and executing them at arbatrary and well chosen targets. They pretty much don't have any idea about how the code works, except for what the authour tells them. They Script kiddies. *tut tut*

    I'm half way through and it has some really good info.
    I'm not sure why they say that perl and python is the preffered language of hackers. Anyone want to put in an opinion on that?
    I'm glad you like the the article, but don't get me started on Python. I
    love that language and those language discussions tend to turn heated. Am i loser If I love a language. I'm so confused. oh Python how I love thee. let me count your ways.....
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    I'm not racist, but the computer world has some screwed up things like that.
    For example Master and Slave drive?
    That doesn't sound to politically correct to me.
    "Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
    supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."
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    Haha.

    It's not racist, though. Master and slave just means that one controls the other :P It's not referring to African-Americans being controlled by Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xviddivxoggmp3
    I'm not racist, but the computer world has some screwed up things like that.
    For example Master and Slave drive?
    That doesn't sound to politically correct to me.
    Hell yeah. Why does the bad guy always wear black? why is bad luck when you see a black cat? why is black monday?? its cause they working subconciously.
    Whatever. This isn't a racial discussin anyway. Even though the states still is a little backwards. But hey, this isn't a race discussion.

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    that brings me back to an article I read a while ago. Pretty funny. and it is on CNN

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    Forget all that "hat" stuff.. If you're gonna be a hacker, do it for yourself and for your own knowledge.

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    I'm not racist, but the computer world has some screwed up things like that.
    For example Master and Slave drive?
    That doesn't sound to politically correct to me.
    Haha! I remember a thread posted a while ago...

    that brings me back to an article I read a while ago. Pretty funny. and it is on CNN
    I think that was the article posted in the thread! It's so ridiculous!
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