*FREE* Visual C++ 2005 Express Beta

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean_mackrory
    unless you're like me and you show up to one of the meetings, sleep through it, and then get the free Academic version
    you just blanked the whole meeting, then a copy of MSVS landed in your lap?!

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    Actually I didn't even really go to the meeting. My brother-in-law works at BYU in the CS department and they've got a deal going with MS that you can download MSVS off of their servers if you're in that department, and BYU picks up the tab. So he got his copy from that. Just before my birhtday he took his wife to a meeting, and stocked up on coupons (then won the drawing at the end for another free copy). All my brothers are in programming in one way or another and we all have legal version of VS, and are yet to pay for a single one!

    edit: They still do these meetings, but they're cutting back a lot. I mentioned the drawing earlier. It used to be that you showed up and left with a copy, now one person leaves with a copy after winning a drawing.
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    Bleh I wasted 30 seconds of my life downloading it and it doesn't even run on windows 98! I guess I should get a new OS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaWiB
    Bleh I wasted 30 seconds of my life downloading it and it doesn't even run on windows 98! I guess I should get a new OS...
    I'm assuming that if it doesn't run on 98 that it won't run on ME.

    Dang it.

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    Nope. 2000, XP, and Server 03. I was surprized at that because .NET programs run on 95 and up, basically (depending on other factors, like RAM and processor).

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    Meh.

    How can MS have programs that don't work on their own OSs?


    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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    Because they are no longer giving support for their old OSes. Why add in more code to a project to support an OS that is about 6+ years old?

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    You want MS to supply something with as much power as VS.NET 2003 in a DOS 1.0 beta version? Windows 98 is quickly becoming obsolete. IT didn't take long for 3.1 to go out, and XP is, under the skin, a much more dramatic change.

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    I understand why they couldn't give it the support for DOS 1.0 beta, but would it take so much more work for them to give it support for 98?

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    From that point up they were using a completely different kernel, so yes,

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    Oh, that makes sense.

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    yes, and also for marketing purposes. i'm shure it wouldn't be that hard to adapt to windows 98, but they want people to be using XP now don't they. MSVC command lines tools are for xp/2000 too actally

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    Oh cool. I still love gcc, but I think I'll give this a try. Microsoft has actually been starting to get better lately.

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    I agree - they're definately changing. I think the new look of XP-type systems has a slightly more Linux feel to it. That's not necesarily a good thing, but it's a sign that Linux is starting to control the industry more.

    edit: And .NET seems like almost a deliberate cry for Windows to start fading into the background and be one the same level as *nix, Solaris, etc... As soon as projects like mono become better known, it's gonna happen FAST.

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    It downloaded and installed in a few minutes, no problems here.

    The compiler seems almost unchanged feature-wise (no export or and/or/not yet). Grrr!
    I really like the new interface, though.
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