riding the last wave of C++

This is a discussion on riding the last wave of C++ within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; php isnt only used for forums ya know. http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Script...ams/index.html loads of stuff. and the whole point in learning php is ...

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    php isnt only used for forums ya know. http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Script...ams/index.html
    loads of stuff. and the whole point in learning php is to be able to build your own ones. i was working on a game like www.starkingdoms.com once, and you can't find anything already written that will help you. it's like telling everyone here to go onto planetsourcecode.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by whackaxe
    actually, there is a non web part of PHP. not very conveniant for shure, but it's fun to program http://gtk.php.net/

    and php is written in C, but it could be written in Java
    Ah, but that project was only intended to show that PHP could be used outside of web programming... not to show that PHP is generally good for normal programming.

    At least if I remember correctly, havent read the docs there for quite a while.
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    you'll be shocked when the LISP strikes back, bubba

    LISP and ML will whup C and C++ and C# and C-- and C+

    or, maybe D will
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    ...if NASA used Java they'd never get a response from their robots on Mars -
    >> they'd still be loading and interpreting the code. I'm sure they use C and assembly.
    Sorry Bubba, http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/0...ars.java.reut/
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    Wow, no way... Java?? In my experience, java is slow/buggy/difficult to use...

    Oh well, it's just a news story. Probably they're using Java for the rover to entertain itself while waiting for new commands to come in, while C/assembly is what controls its AI
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    Now thats unbelievable. No wonder the damn things ain't working right.





    Deleted my post because it was too much of a rant.

    Here was it's premise, in short: C/C++ rocks.
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    >php is written in C

    I have often heard this, but I wonder how it is possible.

    You can't write languages in C, you write programs. The notion of a language is abstract and can only be described on paper.

    I can see how you can write a php interpreter/compiler in C, but not the language itself....unless maybe it is a scripting language...is it?
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    PHP is a scripting language

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    davidp- Easy, all a programming language really is is just a bunch of words that all work together to generate some sort of file that can be executed. The language itself is meaningless of course (the computer itself can't understand it, that's why we write compilers to compile the code), but it saves us from typing zeros and ones all day long and looking at giant lookup tables for the assembly calls

    -And yes, PHP is a server-side scripting language

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    I have often heard this, but I wonder how it is possible.
    One way of looking at it is that PHP refers both to the language, as well as to the interpreter.

    all a programming language really is is just a bunch of words that all work together to generate some sort of file that can be executed
    Not quite. There are rules to the use of these words and symbols, sort of meta-information to the words and symbols that make up a language.
    Certainly from that point of view, one would be better of writing PHP in BNF than PHP in C.
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    PHP is a scripting language. when you ask for a PHP page on a web site, the web server sends the file through PHP.exe and retrieves the output. so your lines of code are interpreted by C and tehn acted upon etc...

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    Lookup tables for asm?? I'm not sure I follow. You can program in assembly w/o lookup tables quite easily.

    If you asked me what the binary equivalent or even hex opcode of a mov instruction was I probably couldn't tell you...but I can still code using the mov instruction.

    I'm sorta lost as to your statement.

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    i dunno, i'm just used to seeing one of my friends program in assembly and he used to use these lookup tables of all the basic opcodes and assembly calls. I'm guessing it was just cuz he was just learning how to do it

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    yah, i know what you mean, i was mainly just pointing out that you can technically make a language in C, because all a language really is is just a different way of writing code.

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    I emailed the college board and they sent me an interesting link.

    I think many of you would be interested in looking at it.

    http://www.collegeboard.com/ap/pdf/a...rt_surveys.pdf

    It is the report of the committe that made the decision to change from C/C++ to Java
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    Nuh uh. The collegeboard changed to Java purely because they are getting paid by Sun to do it. They are in a contract with them and they are required to teach it for another 2 or 4 years. And because Fran Trees wants to make more money by making more of her stupid AP books and also promoting "Women in Computing." That book is I believe called "Out of the Penthouse: Women in Computer Science."

    Purely business and money.

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