riding the last wave of C++

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    There is no way Prelude that you are going to leave us hanging like that. You must tell (at least) me your favorite language(C). Don't come up with something like Perl or I'll smack you

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    i was lucky to be among the middle of the C++ wave and not the end. When I was a freshman in high school, I think it was the 2nd year they were teaching C++, and they continued to teach C++ until my senior year, in which they began to teach Java.

    Now the only people who know C++ in that school are the seniors mainly (the juniors too, but they have been heavily under the influence of the Java tidal wave).

    I personally think it is a huge mistake.

    Because Java is better for teaching. Who knows, in a few years there may be no Java classes, just Python or something similar.
    They think that, but I presume they are wrong. Java does seem better for teaching at first glance, but in the end it is not. It is horrid for teaching compared to C++.

    Right now I am in sophomore level Computer Science classes here at Brigham Young University (I myself am a freshman), and pretty much everyone I know in the CS program is a Java programmer, because BYU has also switched to teach Java in its beginning programming course.

    In consequence, these people have the hardest time understanding what a pointer even is, because they are so used to EVERYTHING being allocated dynamically. They do teach C here in a beginning class, but cover it only for a few weeks, and so people have almost no time to learn it.

    And then there is also a C++ class at the sophomore level which is pure C++ programming, and so they do finally get to taste it then, but they have the hardest time learning it because of the issue with pointers and memory allocation.

    In that sense it is MUCH better to learn C/C++ first, and then learn Java, so peoples minds dont get all screwed up.
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    her fav language is visual basic d00derz


    i should be punished for that one but i couldnt resist

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    i just wrote a dissertation to the AP Board about why C++ should be teached in place of Java to beginning programmers.

    I encourage you all to do so as well.

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    Assembly and Machine code(11010110111101) are the most powerfull

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    but require the most time to implement

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    >>but require the most time to implement

    not with the nifty trick Thantos showed me today with g++

    some entropy with that sink? entropysink.com

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    copy/paste?

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    Use the -S Luke...

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    Thantos you liar...i thought you went to sleep....and in fact you just didn't want to chat with me huh...about ancient Roman wives....hahahaa.....BTW....I'm on the 5th page

    some entropy with that sink? entropysink.com

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    actually after I said I was going to sleep I played a game of footage on the PS2. Then I tried to sleep and realized I was too wired to sleep.

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    wow, they taught c++ at your schools.
    The curriculum here is still delphi( yuck,splutter, cough) and that is all you can lear in a queensland high school. I am doing an IT course at uni and it is nothing but java except for a c and c++ unit in 3rd year.
    That is an absolute joke. If people are graduating without knowing what a pointer is how will they be able to pick up the syntax of other languages???
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    Well, there is somewhat the issue of letting go. If you remember(I dont, too young then, but have read quite a bit on it), that alot of C programmers did not want to even touch C++, thinking the same about it what most C++ programmers think about JAVA/PYTHON/etc.. As computers become increasingly more powerful, the need of the speed that is percieved to be in C/++ is fading away(I dislike this as much as anyone, I miss the good ole days of 64 kB programs made by assembly programmers).

    where does this thread want to go, I am wondering?

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    >>that alot of C programmers did not want to even touch C++

    some still don't....ehem, Thantos

    some entropy with that sink? entropysink.com

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    Hey I'm touching it...with a lightyear long pole

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