This neighborhood is going to the dogs

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    Gamegod, maybe you should have gone to daycare and learned how to speak English.
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    Yeah, but Gamegod, all the stuff is hypothetical...
    What was hypothetical?

    >I had a babysitter before I was old enough for school - both of my parents worked... I didn't mind it - there were kids there my own age to play with... <


    And both of the parants for the kids you played with worked also. I am gussing they did not. Today world is much diffrent, to much value placed on having a huge house, 3 cars per driving person, 50 acres of land. No matter what the cost.

    >Also, since I don't get paid for lunch (damn management), I only work 8 hours, but that's a mistake that's easily made (my bad this time)<
    I don't get paid for luch either. If any here does I want your job. My averge day at micdonalds is 8-4 (but this can change) and it say's I am working 8 hours. Despite tacking a half hour lunch break.

    >Gamegod, maybe you should have gone to daycare and learned how to speak English.<

    French could be my native tounge, I still would not be able to spell.
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    > What was hypothetical? <

    "If" I had kids, "if" I sent them to day care, etc., etc.

    Actually the kids that were there belonged to the lady babysitting.

    > Today world is much diffrent<

    C'mon, I'm not that much older than you...

    >I don't get paid for luch either. If any here does I want your job. My averge day at micdonalds is 8-4 (but this can change) and it say's I am working 8 hours. Despite tacking a half hour lunch break.<

    So, you do get paid for lunch. I didn't mean that the company gave you money to go spend on lunch, I meant that the company pays you for the time during lunch when you're not performing your duties.

    >French could be my native tounge, I still would not be able to spell. <

    I like that

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    >"If" I had kids, "if" I sent them to day care, etc., etc.
    But nothing incready out of line right?

    >Actually the kids that were there belonged to the lady babysitting.

    >> Today world is much diffrent<

    C'mon, I'm not that much older than you... <

    You were very lucky, you were allowed to be a kid. Most familes who have no parents at home (a good deal of them) send there kids to daycare.


    >So, you do get paid for lunch. I didn't mean that the company gave you money to go spend on lunch, I meant that the company pays you for the time during lunch when you're not performing your duties. <
    No I don't I get a I have to punch out for lunch.m It says 8 hours on the schedule.

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    In 1966, at the tender age of 22, I went to work for Prudential
    Insurance Co, in Newark, N.J., which is about 45 miles from
    my then-country hometown of Freehold.

    I had to catch a 6:00 a.m. bus out of Freehold in order to
    arrive on time for the 8:00 a.m. start of work. Work ended
    at 4:20 p.m. and if my mad dash to the terminal was
    successful I could catch a bus which would drop me
    off in Freehold around 6:30 p.m.

    I pursued this rat race for a full two years, finally quitting
    because the free lunches and good pay just weren't worth
    the time and trouble of commuting. But it wasn't just the
    sucking commute either that convinced me to look for a better
    way to live. When you're 22 and single you've got no time
    for rise and shine at 5:30, get home at 6:30- 7:00 p.m.
    bull......... That routine's for the aged and infirm (married w/chillun). By the time I finished showering and changing, it's
    7:30-8:00 at least--where is everybody, all my friends and
    stuff? I dunno--gone here or there. I might catch them if I'm
    lucky. Screw that--I'd rather be poor and hang with my
    friends, than be poor and spend all day commuting to a desk
    job in Newark.

    Cheez, I'm not intending this in any way to be critical of your
    choice of lifestyle--your life is your life, and your situation is
    drastically different from mine in 1966, lol. I don't know why
    I'm telling you this, except maybe to give you and others another view
    from someone a little different. I didn't regret my decision
    back then and I have no regrets today--but that's only
    because I've managed after all these years to land standing
    on my own two feet. I didn't plan it that way; it was just fortunate to happen. I hope it happens for you, too.

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    I could not have said it any better.
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    i think i must be pretty lucky - i live in a little village in the country and the crime rate is almost non-existent (i think the closest crime i have seen is my car's wing mirror being smashed by some drunken people a year or so ago!!)... The only problem is that in the UK travel is diabolical - the roads are extremely congested and the trains are bad - overcrowded and unreliable...

    I used to work in london for two years and it often used to take me two hours to get to work and two hours to get home (sometimes more) plus for most of that time there were no seats on the trains. In the end i gave that up and now mostly work from home. Some of the companies i have done consultancy work for though seem to have a strange work ethic - they think you are not interested in your job or the company unless you are in work before 8am and dont leave the office till 7pm (think its a throwback to the recession in the 80s)
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    >>The only problem is that in the UK travel is diabolical - the roads are extremely congested and the trains are bad - overcrowded and unreliable...

    Too damn true......

    >>Some of the companies I have done consultancy work for though seem to have a strange work ethic - they think you are not interested in your job or the company unless you are in work before 8am and dont leave the office till 7pm (think its a throwback to the recession in the 80s)

    Yup - that yuppie work ethic still rules in some areas. Quite often though I have found it is exercised by those who can only offer time to their job - due to a lack of skill & enjoyment. I have been in jobs where I have spent over 14 hours a day hard at work (this want always the case - only when a deadline loomed), but I enjoyed completing what I needed to do and I never begrudged anyone else for doing less hours. Often those that gripe about others not doing as many hours are bitter, disillusioned individuals who will work themselves into an early grave

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    Rick, what were you trying to tell me with that? This isn't sarcasm - I feel like you tried to tell me something important, and I really didn't get it. Sorry....

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    The same thing I have been trying to tell you. (and other people)

    You will loose if you choose to live in the country and work in the city.
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    >You will loose if you choose to live in the country and work in the city

    I still think that's a giant crock. You can be in the country and still have a shorter commute than 2 hours. I could work in Canada if I was willing to commute that far. There's choices that are a lot closer, buddy.

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    Originally posted by fordy

    ...they think you are not interested in your job or the company unless you are in work before 8am and dont leave the office till 7pm (think its a throwback to the recession in the 80s)
    That's the way it is today for the management slobs at Nestle
    where I work. I'm a union/hourly grunt who works the late
    night shift, and often's the times I see the day shift bosses
    leaving at 7 p.m., as I'm reporting early for ot. The floor
    supervisors used to get overtime, but even they were cut off
    about a year ago. They don't even get comp time. There'e a
    belt-tightening trend happening now all over the industrial
    world, I would guess. Employers are asking for more labor
    while instituting across-the-board cutbacks at the same time.
    This was a contract year for the union and we very nearly
    voted to strike because of the Company's contract demands.
    Three years from now when this contract expires, our chief
    shop steward says we all better have a lot of $ saved up,
    because he doesn't think the Company will back off. Basically,
    what the Company wants is to eliminate our Sunday double-
    time and to revise our vacation pay to a straight 40-hours per
    vacation week instead of the 2.2% of our annual gross, which
    is the way it's processed now. Most of us, including me, stand
    to lose $5,000+ per year if those two things go through.

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    Originally posted by Govtcheez

    Rick, what were you trying to tell me with that? This isn't sarcasm - I feel like you tried to tell me something important, and I really didn't get it. Sorry....
    Nothing, really, cheez. Your situation is a lot different from
    mine because you have an old lady. You also live in a
    different part of the country, where the commute might not
    be so ugly as it is in New Jersey. Your much more settled
    right now than I was at 22.

    I asked myself the very same question you have as I was
    writing that piece) , and I really couldn't come up with
    anything except to say I hope commuting works for you as
    much as it didn't work for me. Many, many, many people here
    in Jersey commute more miles than I care to think about. I see
    them getting on and off the buses at all hours. I just wonder
    about them, that's all--how they can spend so much time
    on the road away from their families and all, day after day,
    year after year. It's really nothing to get excited about. You
    have a plan--go for it. But just remember to keep your eyes
    and ears open to what's happening around you, and if you
    ever do have doubts about the course you've chosen, you're
    still young enough that you can change it if need be. The main
    thing I think I'm telling you, pal, is to just try to be as happy
    in the future as you are now.

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    How do you make it now?
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