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    We're stuck up idiots here in America...Vive la France!
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    Originally posted by JaWiB
    We're stuck up idiots here in America...Vive la France!
    I hope that this was a sarcastic comment. I hope that all Americans are proud to be American. Otherwise, get the hell out.

    some entropy with that sink? entropysink.com

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    Maybe I should have said "freedomland" instead? Honestly, many of us have bad attitudes about how the world should work. I mean we live in a country where people can make others pay for their faults, and where people complain about the littlest things. If a "basic freedom" is slightly threatened people can over react while we miss the big picture. At one time, Americans died for their freedom, and now most Americans don't even know what true patriotism means. The people I admire most are those that would willingly go to another nation knowing that, although they may not be welcome, they are there to help others gain the basic freedoms which we take for granted.
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    • Silvercord wrote:
      and he got shot


    and your point?
    ever notice how only the good presidents get shot?
    why didnt nixon get shot? ever think about that? that wussy resigned! the only prez in US history to resign. hmmm... couldnt have been because he was being generous to the VP...


    assasinated presidents were:
    • Abraham Lincoln
      William McKinley
      John F. Kennedy
      James Garfield

    and those who were shot but not assasinated:
    • Harry Truman
      Gerald Ford
      Ronal Reagan
      Andrew Jackson


    how come Andrew Johnson or Bill Clinton didnt get shot? they are the only presidents that ever have been impeached! couldnt have been because they were doing something legitimate....

    are you seeing a pattern there? Its not C++, dont try to decode it. its plain and simple.



    now, I'm not taking sides with Arnold... but all im saying is that we should give this guy a chance now that he's in office. It's not like moaning and $$$$$ing about it is going to make any difference... now matter how much you do it... he will still remain governator.

    Lets be patient and see how it develops... and those of you complaining from other states... back off... this is California business. IF you dont like the way things turned out... wait till next election.
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    >>It wasn't such a big deal when Dusty Baker a few months ago said that whites cannot play good baseball in hot weather.

    I did not hear that.
    I don't know who Dusty Baker is, not being an American.
    Is Dusty Baker white? If so it realy can't be racist as it was not about his own race (racism defined as "the prejudice that members of one's own race are intrinsically superior to members of other races").

    But it was not directed at a SPECIFIC player.
    Either way it is still wrong to make judgements on a persons race.

    >>I mean if everyone should be equal why uphold affirmitive action?

    Because everybody is not equal yet. Not close.

    >>they are there to help others gain the basic freedoms which we take for granted.

    Like the right to bear arms..........

    So is the US going to ensure all Iraqiis, Afghaniis have access to the same level of armament as the average American?
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    Hi all,
    its no real suprise that Arnie won (why has everyone suddenly gone with ARNOLD ) Celebrities often do well in what amounts to a popularity contest.Over here we've had Seb Coe(athlete), Judi Dench and FFS Gyles Brandreth( TV presenter best known for wearing sad jumpers) so with Govenor Davis not doing so well and Arnie's coming in off the back of a successful movie release it was bound to happen. I hope he does well for the people of California, his wife should know something of politics even if he's not so hot.
    As for GWB I agree with Novacain he has alienated the rest of the world, but his lack of concern for the rest of the world is no suprise when even after becoming president he admitted the were still STATES he had'nt been too. I'd thought a man running for the highest office in the land would at least make 1 visit each if only to the state capital.

    Can someone tell me who said what about the Eagles QB, I interested to know. It would seem, just from a quick look at the Eagles website, that this guy is a decent player. The black thing sounds like someone spitting the dummy and playing the race card, the facts suggest he's there on merit and I don't belive any club would have a player on the team in that postion who couldn't play.
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    Originally posted by novacain

    Encouraged Israel to attack its neighbours with its 'pre-emptive strike' policy. Now the US will loose more credibility in the UN, as it will have to veto the latest US Security council resolution against Israel (again).
    And this is a problem because? Is it pre-emptive, or retaliatory? Its not like the Palestinians have no blood on their hands. And you know the UN security council should keep their nose out of Israel. They prove time and time again that they are generally impotent anyway. They do not bother to meddle with any other sovereign nation in the same way they do with Israel. Imagine if they [the UN] tried to come in and tell the American government (or the British government, or any government that is truly sovereign) where it could go with its military, and what it could do. All this while aggressors were suicide bombing all over the place. I do believe the UN would be told to beat it. And rightly so. For a governent exists in part to look after the welfare of the people. Its funny how the media paints the Palestinians as the 'poor victims' and the truth is that Israel has been getting maligned for years over taking actions that nobody else would be criticised for.

    Anyway, this is off topic, so I will add my token comment here:

    Hopefully Arnold does good for the people of California.

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    >>I don't know who Dusty Baker is, not being an American.
    >>Is Dusty Baker white? If so it realy can't be racist as it was not
    >>about his own race

    Dusty Baker is a black chicago cubs manager. And see you didn't hear anything about it, yet you did hear about Limbaugh. There must be something wrong here.

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    novacain-
    That idiot said the QB only got the job because he was coloured. He reduced the debate to the colour of the mans skin.
    No he didn't. He said McNab is overrated and that the media props him up because they want a black hero. He was commenting on the media, not the eagles or their quarterback with relation to race. The media's pro-minority attitude was what he mentioned. But since you heard it from the media, I understand why you thought he said that.

    edit:
    Good commentary on it. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...p_on_limbaugh/ Rush was hung on this because he's Rush Limbaugh, not because he said something terrible.
    Last edited by FillYourBrain; 10-09-2003 at 07:06 AM.
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    @Fillyourbrain,
    Wow I never heard of Rush Lambaugh before your post but a little googling enlightened me

    http://www.fair.org/press-releases/l...s-reality.html

    This guy is a plonker and it would seem sacking this clown is long overdue. Although I'm sure he is just making a career out of being controversial and that means the fault is ours for listening.

    Also I see nothing wrong with the media building up a black player, minorities will benefit from such a positive role model and if his performaces don't live up to billing, thats down the to the Eagles, they pay his wages and I don't think he's starting QB for nothing.
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    interesting perspective. The point is that he didn't say anything racist. If anything, he called attention to the media's racial favoritism aka racism.
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    whatever you may think of our President is your bussines but he is STILL your president! and he is leading your country, - there should be a certain respect there
    You're an idiot.

    We should not "respect" a leader just because he or she is the leader, what about all the national leaders today and in the past who are in fact totally useless:

    Musolini, Hitler, Hussein, Pinochet are a few of the more obvious examples.

    Should their respective peoples' have respected them, just because they were the national leaders at the time?

    Here's an idea, maybe we should judge politicans on MERIT, instead of handing them "respect" on a platter merely because they have won a battle of spin.

    I hope that all Americans are proud to be American
    Again you are an idiot, we shouldn't be proud of our own nationality just because it's "our" nationality, we didn't even control which nationality we ended up in.

    We should form our opinions based on rational, to simply drum into people that they should be proud of their country just because it's "theirs" merely blinds them to any faults, and correspondingly acts as inertia to beneficial changes.

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    kind of reminds you of nazism otherwise

    and the true soldiers and people that fight for this country should actually be proud of the fact that people are able to protest, because they lay their lives on the line so they can have the right to do that.

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    > ever notice how only the good presidents get shot?

    Christ, you're a moron.

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    >>Christ, you're a moron.<<

    Moron

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