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I'm running IE 6.0 on high security because it was recommeded since I have VS.NET beta 2. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by King o the Witches

With my cable modem setup I don't think something like this is possible.

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Attitudes like that will be your demise, bub. Cable modems
offer zilch protection from hackers. Your witch harem is
wide open for the taking. Don't think so? Get Black Ice
Defender and check your logs after the first few hours.
There are maniac college students like yourself out there
plugging their laptops into the campus network and scanning
selected ranges of ip's for the sole purpose of creating mayhem.

Cable companies do not place a firewall between their clients
and their clients' internet connection. There's nothing but
ether between you and the hackers.

rick barclay

I'll get WinXP. I'll use the firewall and I will drive the evil Skeletor and his band of rouges out of Palizar and all the people will live free lives. Yippeeee! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

oh man...skeletor? methinks you need to watch less cartoons.

Oh yeah, like I'd trust a microsoft firewall. I mean, not just for some dumb reaons like "Oh, they have money. they're bad. their products suck" No, because their operating systems are extremely insecure AND hotmail gets hacked all the time (yeah, it doesn't run on windows, but they should still be able to protect it.). I think them blocking 3rd party firewalls falls should fall under their monopoly lawsuit, shouldn't it? I mean, if you can't install ZA in your new OS, and you HAVE to use XP's own, then aren't they making it so zone labs (or any firewal manufacturers) can't make money?

By the powers of grey skull. I AM THE POWER!!!

No, because their operating systems are extremely insecure

Oh dear. Do you have a list of the unfixed security holes, then? I'm sure there's a lot of people who would like to see such a list.

hotmail gets hacked all the time (yeah, it doesn't run on windows

While it does run on Windows (try Netcraft), I don't recall the last time it was 'hacked'. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

I mean, if you can't install ZA in your new OS

Can you not read, or do I need to repeat myself?

Let me spell it out in short words: they have not blocked ZoneAlarm: ZoneAlarm contained bugs that prevented it operating on Windows XP. Those bugs are fixed in the latest version. What's the problem?

>Really? Version 6.0? Amazing.

Esss don't be an Asss.

>Oh dear. Do you have a list of the unfixed security holes, then?

its the ones they DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT CAUSE THE PROBLEMS!!!!ARE THERE DOESNT SEEM TO BE ANY SHORTAGE!!

Esss don't be an Asss.

I will put money on the probability that you weren't running IE6 final release (build 2600) when you had something downloaded without your knowledge.

its the ones they DONT KNOW ABOUT THAT CAUSE THE PROBLEMS!!!!ARE THERE DOESNT SEEM TO BE ANY SHORTAGE!!

Well, if you don't know what they are, how can you assert there are any? If you can demonstrate one security hole of which Microsoft are unaware, I'll back down. However, in that case you should inform them, don't you think?

It remains the fact that most of the world's large business Web sites run on IIS. They use IE and Windows 2000 internally. Do you really think they would if they were as insecure as you make out?

If you can demonstrate one security hole of which Microsoft are unaware, I'll back down

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to the CProgramming.com Arena for the Main Event! In this corner, weighing in with years of experience and thousands of lines of code, I give you the Bristol Bomber, Esss!!! And in the blue corner, packing extended capitalization and numerous misspellings, it's the mystery man: no-one!!! Gentlemen, you know the rules. If no-one points out a security hole that remains unpatched, he will be declared the winner and Esss will be proven wrong (for once)! If he is unable to uncover the deep dark mysteries of IIS or hotmail, Esss will be permitted to dance over his battered and bruised compiler! Let's have a fair fight, and may the best man win!

There are security holes in IE6 but that is not to say that it isn't a great web browser. The good thing about Microsoft is that they will automatically update their software if you are running WinXP.

I sure hope that more large corporations use MS operating systems because I like how they are the one source that will supply you with everything you need. I think that a lot of complaints stem from Win9X. I also have a problem with the non business operating systems. WinXP home edition programs will not allow any direct hardware access and therefore less hang ups. I'm quite excited about the new technology actually and MS is without a doubt the best company.

>>>IE6 final release (build 2600)

Well... last time I downloaded the installer was this morning
when I finally got 2000 for my PC at work, and it said it was
a public preview (beta) and only available in english.

Now, as long as it works, I don't care if it's beta or english,
and it does work well. But now, half of all Windows menus
( like right clicking on a folder for example ) are english, half
of them are german. I have yet to find the logic behind which
part of my OS works with which language. I don't really care
if something is german or english as long as it works, but you
can't really say that this is a release version someone can use.

I don't have problems with it, I like it, but it's far from being
officially used with all our PCs. I'm just a lucky guy, because
being developer means you can choose your software yourself
on your PC at work. Other people who get the standard
installation of our IT dept. will get IE5.5.

I, too, would like to have ZA with my XP. If I get XP at all.
I've seen too many bugs in MS products. I like them, I use
them, but I don't trust them to guard my security.
Because if there is a bug in it, it will be known to the people
who abuse it in no time. And while it isn't worthwhile to
exploit a bug in ZA at the moment, because there are
enough people without a firewall around, if they all use XP,
it will be the best and easiest target available.

If you take a trip to microsoft.com than you can download IE6.0. There is a link and a picture right now on their default page.

>I will put money on the probability that you weren't running IE6 final release (build 2600) <

Who is? you knew dang well thats not what i meant.

>If you can demonstrate one security hole of which Microsoft are unaware, I'll back down.<

Excellent try, but irrelevant... i don't have to find a hole someone will do that for me i'll let you know when it happens if you want.

simply put, Can you honestly deny their existence?

> simply put, Can you honestly deny their existence?

Oooh! Oooh! ::raises hand:: I'll take this one. If you can't show they're there, can you honestly prove their existence?

I fugure that there will be less bugs in the future. MS has gone to lengths to eliminate DLL HELL for example. This problem stemed from the fact that some programs share DLL files. If a new program updated a DLL than an older program that depended on that DLL might suddenly not run anymore. This was a big problem that the Common Language Runtime will eliminate. I can't wait till you guys get real Operating Systems and stop running Win9X.