Our initial reactions to 9-11 two years ago.

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    They had already tested the bomb. But they did have fears it would ignite the atmosphere.

    Which is never a good thing.

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    To Fountain:

    Stop acting like Americans are happy that we nuked Japan because we aren't. We (or at least most) just simply view it as a sad but necessary evil.

    Just because it was 60 years ago doesn't mean they were in the dark ages. Instead of just linking to google and making others do your dirty work, why don't you actually show some proof of your claims? Can't just make statements and make others have to prove it for you.

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    You know, in all of this talk about the ethics of dropping atomic bombs on Japan, nobody seems to have pointed out that the Japanese sent some balloons over to North America with the intent of doing damage and harming civilians. Its been a while since I have done any reading on this, but I believe they sent some sort of bombs mounted on the balloons. I also think maybe they wanted to (or did) try some biological warfare by an attempt to introduce the plague though these means. Now sending a balloon up into the atmosphere is pretty tough to control when it is not manned -> so these balloons were not necessarily headed for military targets, but anybody who happened to fall in their path. And they did find the wreckage of some of those balloons in North America. So yeah its not good to kill a lot of civilian people with a big bomb, but lets not try and pretend that the Japanese did not also make their own attempts to harm innocent people.

    As far as 9/11, while I was working I could not help but remember exactly where I was when i heard the news (driving to the lumber yard) and what the day was like (beautiful and sunny) and how I reacted (I thought somebody messed up until I heard about the second plane) What a horrible feeling it was for me. Its funny, normally I can laugh with the best of people, but I don't think i laughed for probably 3 days afterward, and I felt sick the whole time.

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    To me, it seems kind of heartless to put that fact in a record book. I know it's just a fact, but it still doesn't seem right.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, and the "break the record" button is just disguisting. In these recent times of terrorism, that's the last thing we need.
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    Originally posted by bennyandthejets
    To me, it seems kind of heartless to put that fact in a record book. I know it's just a fact, but it still doesn't seem right.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, and the "break the record" button is just disguisting. In these recent times of terrorism, that's the last thing we need.
    I agree. Especially when there have been videos surfacing in the last few days featuring Mr. MostWanted and his threats of increased acts of violence against our country that will shadow the events of 9/11.

    I have no doubt that there are people in our society and in other countries around the world whom are sympathetic to his desires and are ready to give their lives to prove it. I just hope it doesn't come to that...again.

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    Dropping the bomb on Japan was something that had to be done in order to stop the war. Do you think the President of the Unites States at that time wanted to drop the bomb either? No, he didnt. It was a tough decision for him. He knew all about the civilian lives that would be lost.

    But he had to weight the pros and the cons. If the USA would not have dropped the bomb on Japan, millions more people would have died than if we DID drop the bomb on Japan. Simply because of the Japanese fighting tactics at that point in time.

    So yes, thousands of civilian lives were lost because we dropped the bomb, however, more human lives would have been lost if we did not drop the bomb than if we did.

    Therefore although it is a horrible thing that had to drop the bomb and kill all those civilians during WWII, I completely agree with the decision that the President made because in the end it actually saved more lives than it killed.
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    How did we get to arguing about WW2? This is a thread on 9-11. Stop arguing, start a new thread about it if you want to talk about WW2 .
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    Originally posted by PJYelton
    To Fountain:

    Stop acting like Americans are happy that we nuked Japan because we aren't. We (or at least most) just simply view it as a sad but necessary evil.

    Just because it was 60 years ago doesn't mean they were in the dark ages. Instead of just linking to google and making others do your dirty work, why don't you actually show some proof of your claims? Can't just make statements and make others have to prove it for you.

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    PJ-read it again, then again, then again.

    I said I was MORE concerned about the effect it could have had on the world. Then read it again, and see I did not say you were all happily munching on burgers doing a 'We nuked Japan dance'.

    Such is life.

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    Its just that you said "we thought it was cool" as in we thought it was awesome, sweet, gnarly, fun, etc. I guess you meant it simply as OK/acceptable. Sorry if I misinterpreted what you said.

    All I was saying was that you act as though scientists 60 years ago were idiots and that they would have allowed a bomb to go off that could have destroyed the earth. Unless you provide some proof to your claims, these fears are as senseless as those people who think cloning is going to lead to massive armies of super people.

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    "The night before the first atomic bomb test, Dr. Enrico Fermi took bets on the chances that the weapon would ignite the Earth's atmosphere. Fermi, an expatriate Italian scientist (whose earlier experiment under a Chicago football field proved the possibility of a nuclear chain reaction), also bet on whether the test would destroy the state of New Mexico or the entire world."

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    I would have definitely gone in on that bet on the not destroying the world side. Think about it. The world is destroyed, you lose the bet, but nobody there to collect! Isn't it great? On the other end, if you live you collect. Sweet deal.
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    Originally posted by FillYourBrain
    I would have definitely gone in on that bet on the not destroying the world side. Think about it. The world is destroyed, you lose the bet, but nobody there to collect! Isn't it great? On the other end, if you live you collect. Sweet deal.
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    Originally posted by FillYourBrain
    I would have definitely gone in on that bet on the not destroying the world side. Think about it. The world is destroyed, you lose the bet, but nobody there to collect! Isn't it great? On the other end, if you live you collect. Sweet deal.
    lmao @ 'Sweet deal'

    Its too bad my guts are hurting right now or I could really let myself a decent laugh here.

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    Originally posted by FillYourBrain
    I would have definitely gone in on that bet on the not destroying the world side. Think about it. The world is destroyed, you lose the bet, but nobody there to collect! Isn't it great? On the other end, if you live you collect. Sweet deal.
    Good point.

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