Y'know, it's neat to read that thread about effort, getting grades, and trying to find some correlation between the two, quite honestly I'm appauled at how unconstructive and arbitrary the comments, so I thought I might reflect on that thusly.
I'm glad there are those of us who think that life and schooling is a piece of cake and you can do it with your eyes closed, but that sort of attitude that things come so easily to you and that someone out there is going to hand you money since you're such an intellectual is absurd. Furthermore it disgusts me the apathy that such attitudes convey, it impresses no one, which brings me to my observation having traversed mediums of education from highschool to my undergrad. Now, you would figure that at an institution of higher learning, given that everyone directly previous to admittance was, in general, top-caliber students (intellectuals, mind you to say even), you would figure that it would remain so and that the wonderful environment of academia would persist with equally wonderful effort and interest from the undergraduate student population. However, you'll soon find out that just as there were oh, about 17 percent D's and F's in high school, perhaps 30 or 40 percent in the C-ish range, and likewise 17 percent in the A's and B's (that sort of bell shaped curve), that trend persists in the University system! Furthermore, the curve makes me also sick, and it makes people lazy in general, particularly in engineering. It is not that the students are not bright, it is on the whole that they choose to stop learning, stop attending discussions, and well, quite frankly give up. So as such, do not give up, do not use the fact that the material is 'college-level', and that a 'C' mark in college is worth any 'A' mark in highschool. Do not cop an attitude, study, enjoy, and help keep the environment of academia that taxpayers, those who break their backs on rather menial work that perhaps we'd scoff at, are working for.
Perhaps I won't suddenly cause an end to that other thread, but perhaps I just might attract a few over to this one instead. =) Oh, and glad to have stopped by for once.