Exactly my point!
Originally posted by Cat
That's impossible by current scientific thinking. Given the "singularity" model for the big bang, the events (if any) which preceded the Big Bang cannot leave any evidence in this universe. You cannot look "behind" the Big Bang because, by definition, it would be impossible for any piece of information to survive.
So, we're left in a case where, not only is there no data, there can never be data.
Further, I don't think "scientific religious" is an oxymoron. Religion as an abstract doesn't have to impinge on the domain of science, and science cannot impinge upon the domain of religion.
I think the major problem is that religions are ill-formed. They try to be all-encompassing, so they try to "muscle in" on science, morality, etc. But simply because most religions are ill-formed, and stretch beyond the theological doesn't mean religion in general can't coexist with science, morality, etc. and not interfere with them.