I don't know if thats right nvoigt, they simply do not see any reason to believe he exists.
Sorry, I was mistaken. I actually thought Atheists claim that no God exists
Just like with my invisible kangaroo i can't say he doesn't exist, i can say there is no reason to believe he does, which makes believeing in him crazy.
Ok, with you so far :)
I don't think it's flawed. Maybe different. I think we have the same base here:
Evolution is what happened. Most religious theories and books have flaws.
They were translated several times and have been written a long time ago. This way, even if they were right at the time written, flaws are to be suspected.
No but don't you see my conclusions is not flawed, because i'm not concluding "therefore there is no God" (with the exception of my little hypothesis below) , i'm concluding "there is nothing that indicates a God", and that believing in something that has no basis is crazy.
My conclusion is that I cannot come to a conclusion. Your conclusion is as the evidence is flawed, there is no God.
We are lead back to Santa Claus, or invisible kangroos, or materialising elephants, or any of the infinite number of hypothetical possibilities. It is as reasonable to believe in God, as in them.
Take another example:
Ok so we agree that the tale is nonsense (for whatever reasons), but you see, i would not conclude that therefore there was no life outside of our galaxy.
Joe Farmer was abducted by aliens. Their Ufo landed on top of his barn, taking four cows and him to a planet called yobana where they did various experiments. This is flawed, no evidence whatsoever, probably a made up story. My conclusion is, that this bull$$$$ is not enough to decide if there is life outside of the space we know. Your conclusion would be that as the story is total bull$$$$ and Joe Farmer was drunk at best, there is no life outside of our galaxy.
If that story was the ONLY thing that pointed to outside life, if there was nothing else at all, no reason whatsoever to believe that there was extraterestrial life other than our farmer's story (which in the example i'm presumeing is supposed to be nonsense) then you are right, i wouldn't believe ETs existed, it would be the same as our invisible kangaroos, santa claus, etc. etc.
But there are reasons to believe in ET life, our understanding of the origin of life on Earth points to the possibility of life forming else where. We know life can form spontaneously, and in a universe with more suns than there are grains of sand on Earth that makes the possiblity of ET life plausable.
You see thats the difference, we have basis for suspecting there might be ET life, irrespective of a few crack-pot stories.
Belief in God, has no line of reasoning like the one above supporting it, it is truly a belief based on nothing, its a random guess at a property of the universe, and as such is completely insane.
No facts, no decision on my part. And I guess we already agreed above that we don't have proof for anything. We don't even know if my decision to sit here and answer isn't God's way to play Sims on a saturday afternoon.
Well interestingly i wonder whether it is actually possible to disprove the idea of a an omnipotent, omnibenvolent, omniscient God.
I don't think it's likely or reasonable. I just don't think it's totally impossible either.
Given that i can prove i experience, and my experience is not all it could be, does that not disprove God? (this is just the problem of evil and human imperfection, but it occured to me, that you don't need to assume that your experiences are based on anything real for it to apply, which means that if the problem of evil is logically sound and i think it is, then it constitutes absolute refutation of the God of Christianty, Judaism, and Islam).
But that is just an aside, i know you can't prove anything because you can't prove your senses are real. So can never say anything with absolute certainty, that doesn't mean however we should believe everything is equally likely.
I don't believe that God is 100% impossible, i believe that the chance of God existing is so spectacularly improbable that its as good as believing its impossible.