The French

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    Je ne sais pas. Tout le monde est fou.

    edit: stupid typo
    Last edited by Zach L.; 07-20-2003 at 08:45 PM.
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

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    Gee, he said pass. Toots let Mongo eat you. :P

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    I can understand the french. They want to protect their language. But they should have done it a long time ago. now the word email is too widly used.

    There are alot of words comming from the english language and personaly I think their should be a translation for most of the words.
    I speak dutch, and I'm proud of it. That's why I want to keep the language "pure". I'm not saying that I don't use the word email, in fact, I (and I asume everyone who speaks dutch) will prefer the word email above "elektronische post". But if there was a better alternitive (look at the length of words between english and dutch) and it was introduced at the same time as the word email, I think I would use the dutch word.
    I think that's the same with the french, they want to keep the language pure. But it is too late for the word email, they should have done it a while ago.

    Maintenant I ga écrire a courriel........... Oh wait, that's not right

    anyway my 2€ cent

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    I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but I have to say this:
    the americans are very patriotic about the flag and their country, you can't say a bad word about either of them without getting flamed but when the french try to protect their language, they are called stupid and dumb.
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    I don't know the facts but I think the comparison there isn't right.

    people not liking when you are saying bad things about flag and country

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    country banning something from another country.

    I think the two are pretty different maes. American's don't typically ban outside thought, much as you might think. When the french decide to ban a word's use it's not quite protecting themselves against an aggressive foreigner. It's more like being anti- outside world.

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    besides, isn't it the English who they have a problem with in this case? let's leave americans alone for a day shall we?
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    As I see it, they aren't doing it to ban something from the states/english, they are doing it to protect their language. they are being patriotic about their language, they want to preserve it.

    >>let's leave americans alone for a day shall
    Only said it because the persons who called the french stupid and dumb are from the states (if they were from an other country, I wouldn't have said)

    And I think anyone who's speaking a minority language in the world would agree with me (about the french choosing a french word for email).
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    I agree their being a bit ridiculous... Some legislators probably had just a bit too much time on their hands. Happens everywhere... thats the problem when elected officials become a little too efficient for their own good.
    The word rap as it applies to music is the result of a peculiar phonological rule which has stripped the word of its initial voiceless velar stop.

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    I agree with Maes...

    And using a Frech word in Frances official websites, papers, etc... is totally right, French people can use the word they like, but officials should use a french word...

    You shouldn't be calling them dumb for that!
    none...

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    Im from australia and I only speak english, but I agree with ammar and the rest of them. If I had a language that sounded as good as french, I'd want to preserve it too.

    And I dont see how the flag comparrison was so irrelivant. I thought of protecting their language as a sense of national pride, not the fact they don't like english words :P

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    If you guys read the article, it's only changing in government things. It's no different from the US's stupid freedom fries thing. In fact, I'd say it's better; at least they're not intentionally singling out another country.

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    no different eh? "Freedom fries" was a single restaraunt. Not a government thing.

    it was blown WAAYYYY out of proportion.
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    It was the official cafeteria of the House, IIRC.

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    all govt. docs vs a restaraunt manager's gimmic decision. hmmmmm

    interesting
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    before anyone goes and pulls out their news stories about "freedom fries" I should point out that we're not talking about a govt legislated mandate with freedom fries. the two don't relate at all. You could point out far worse decisions from a single business owner in any given country.
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    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...prj.irq.fries/

    It wasn't a government mandate, but it was spearheaded by 2 Congressmen. I'm just saying everyone's stupid.

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    I don't dispute the general stupidity of the human race. In fact that speaks greatly toward my following point.

    I see a tendency on this board to disregard the criticism of most other countries when the US can not escape it over something so insignificant. And I do recognize the global scope of this board which is why I usually don't get into these things anymore. But I do need to point it out once in a while when it is so blatant.

    Yes, everyone's stupid. Freedom Fries are stupid. But the comparison wasn't valid. A nation banned an outside word. An English word. Simply because it was an english word. The US did no such thing.
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