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    And let me comment real fast on the whole not finding them issues. Look around the room you are in. Look at EVERYTHING. Do you see atoms? Do you see the air? Do you see definate proof that god exists? No. My point of this is this. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there.
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    Wow... congratulations on coming up with the weakest possible argument.

    Philosophy aside, we can say that the weapons exist if we see them. We don't see them. Why don't we attack Fiji for weapons we don't see over there while we're at it.

    (Note: I've got nothing against Fiji. )
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    I think that is a rather strong argument. What is your religion? Have you seen your god? How do you know he exists? That is a strong argument if you open your mind to things. I just take it you are the type of people who have to see it to believe it. (Not a bad thing at all just a personality type) and I am more of someone who just uses what he knows and assumes. No one is going to win this argument.
    "When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

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    ZakkWylde969, right idea but bad way of putting it.

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    My talking skills suck. Feel free to explain to them what I mean if you want.
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    Originally posted by mart_man00
    ZakkWylde969, right idea but bad way of putting it.
    This coming from the master himself

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    At least I'm on the right track. (god that wink smily sucks..))
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    This coming from the master himself
    true, i often forget that im talking to (mostly) pinkos.

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    [rant]
    Jesus Christ if i see this INANE argument presented one more time I swear my head is going to explode.

    LISTEN CRETINS, if there is absolutely no evidence for something THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BELEIVE ITS TRUE.

    I do not believe there is a floating invisible kangaroo hovering over my head because there is no evidence to suggest his existence.

    No, i can't prove he doesn't exist, yes its true he "might" exist despite the fact that there is no evidence, none the less you still have to be clinically insane to believe in him.

    This is why they need to teach people how to think from an early age because clearly if you leave people alone they fail to develop reasoning skills.

    Arguing that the lack of evidence for WMDS in Iraq doesn't matter on the grounds that evidence doesn't really mean anything anyway is worse than just a weak argument, its bloody idiotic.
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    A much better argument would be the one Blair used when he addressed congress, which was something along the lines of saying if the US/UK are wrong they've eliminated a monster and history will forgive them, if they're right (and you could argue there is a certain amount of cirumstantial evidence supporting the 'Iraq was developing/had WMDs hypothesis') then they've done the world a great favour.
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    If they wanted to do the world a favour, they should have killed him in the first war, when they were fully capable of doing so. They let him kill many more people by leaving him in power.

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    yeah, i hate that too. but thats what you get from out lawing assassinations. one bullet could of solved everything.

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    yeah, i hate that too. but thats what you get from out lawing assassinations. one bullet could of solved everything.
    But if asassinations were legal, half of the people in the country would be dead right now...and sometimes, that's not so bad :P

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    Originally posted by mart_man00
    yeah, i hate that too. but thats what you get from out lawing assassinations. one bullet could of solved everything.
    Or nothing. If Saddam Hussein were assassinated, his son or some other like-minded person would assume power in Iraq. In retrospect, it might have been best to have removed Saddam from power in 1991, but the same problems as now are implicit. The best method would have been for the United States to back rebels in Iraq, preferably with UN sanction. In this way, the U.S. would only play a supporting role in the Iraqis' own quest for self-government. Unfortunately, the U.S. missed its chance to do this, and many Kurds were massacred because of it.

    You can see the folly in our current situation. Running water, electricity, and other necessities are hard to come by in Baghdad after the bombings, and infrastructure repair has been slow to come. This has alienated many Iraqis from us and only fuels support for Saddam and anti-American groups in Iraq and the rest of the Islamic world. While this is happening, Americans are continuing to call the shots in Iraq, and our government has been selling off Iraq's resources to the sole profit of U.S. corporations and not the Iraqi people (An interesting article in a recent issue of The Nation http://www.thenation.com/ has more details in which contracts were awarded to whom).

    I truly believe evidence, or a lack thereof, for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is very important to the credibility of the Bush administration, which is already low for many. President Bush appealed his case to the American public mainly on this argument. If Americans were to see this war as a means for Bush to continue his popularity and to reward his business associates, they would be much more demanding. At home, we're seeing a continuing loss of civil liberties in the name of national security. If only there were an opposition majority in both houses of Congress to put an end to this madness.

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    Tree-huggers rule!
    they should be shot.

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