Mission Unix Dumb-Ass to Unix-guru

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    :sigh:

    Read what I said earlier.

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    Are we talking about the same thing? Maybe I was just kicked in the head too many times as a kid (Actually happened I have it on tape.))
    "When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

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    Originally posted by ZakkWylde969
    Are we talking about the same thing? Maybe I was just kicked in the head too many times as a kid (Actually happened I have it on tape.))
    There's this magical thing I use. I mentioned it earlier, see if you can spot it. When my computer starts, I get a prompt. If I wait a couple seconds or type in "windows", it boots to windows. If I type in "linux", it boots to Linux. It's not uncommon, and THERE IS NO FLOPPY DISK USED.

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    Oops I didn't notice that. My computer doesn't have it
    "When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

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    I would assume not, it comes with almost every Linux install though. It's called LILO.

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    Ya I clarified that with govcheez. I used Grub (default choise) since I didn't know too much about Linux at the time. So I didn't get that option.
    "When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

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    You guys are making it too complicated...
    Originally posted by bookworm
    Q) Is Unix and Linux same???!!!
    Sort of. They look and act the same, pretty much. Anything (at least at the newbie level) you learn on one you can use on another.


    I wanna know about Unix , not Linux,if at all they are different.
    They're similar enough so that it doesn't matter.

    P.S.Can Unix run with WinXP or Win98 on the same computer?
    Yes. You need to partition your drive so that Windows can be in one section, and Linux in another. (That's sometimes a difficult task, and I'll let the others tell you how best to do it, because I haven't done it in a while.)

    Then you choose a distribution of Linux (think: brand name). Some distributions will install themselves to your newly created partition. Others make you work harder.

    Last, you need a bootloader or a floppy disk. A bootloader like LILO or GRUB is installed (often by the Linux installation) onto your boot sector. It allows you to select which operating system you want to use each time you boot.

    Or, you can use a floppy disk as a boot disk. See the previous posts for more info on both methods.

    And then you post back to this thread and ask, "What do I do now?" And then we'll know that you've been successful.

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    hmmm... he may not be ready for it, but I'd like the "what do I do now?" Being a newb sucks. I feel stupid.
    Away.

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    You can take your computer to a computer tech who will partion it for you.

    And this is making me want a shell account really bad now..
    "When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

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    Zakk, partitioning isn't that hard. He doesn't need a tech unless he's a computer newb in general, not just a linux newb.
    Away.

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    Originally posted by ZakkWylde969
    You can take your computer to a computer tech who will partion it for you.

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    Well I don't know how to do it.
    "When I die I want to pass peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."

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    Go to download.com and search for "partition" It's really not that hard.
    Away.

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    Q) Is Unix and Linux same???!!!
    Technically Linux is the kernel, not the whole OS. I guess in the beginning they used to call it Linux/GNU, some distros still retain that naming and many other are just known by the word Linux alone.

    If I'm not mistaken, Torvalds used Minix, a version of Unix, to base Linux off. GNU is a sort of a project under the FSF (Free Software Foundation), free here means the source code of their software are freely available or should be made available to the public or anyone interested in it.

    I've heard ppl say 95% of what you'd get in BSD Unix and System V is available in Linux.



    P.S.Can Unix run with WinXP or Win98 on the same computer?
    Easily done, all you need is a partitioning tool, the likes of PartitionMagic, which lets you create partitions on the fly, w/o destroying data. Currently I'm running 4 OSes on my system, the fifith addition is gonna be Mandrake 9.1 soon perhaps.
    Last edited by FloatingPoint; 07-16-2003 at 08:42 AM.

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    No! Don't use Linux. Linux is very dissimilar to the Unix you will be using. Many Linux distros these days are guilty of XP'ing up linux, so you get a bubbly interface hiding all the power. If you want to experience a real Unix, download FreeBSD. It is surprisingly easy to learn, very powerful, and in many respects faster and more stable (i.e. less bloat) than linux.

    Please don't flame me. I speak my opinion.

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