Tranquility Bay

**Cheeze-It** · 07-03-2003

Originally posted by Clyde
Nonsense.

Someone who tries a few things in the quest for new experiences isn't incapable of thinking.

Bleh, nonsense to you...

They don't try drugs because they're curious of how it'll make
them feel. Nobody does that; that's just a cliche that was created
by the writers of those very special episodes of primetime sitcoms.
I believe "Blossom" used the same excuse when she got caught
with heroin.

Hey, I'm curious what it feels like to be eaten by a tiger. I think
I'll try it out in the quest for new experiences.

**Clyde** · 07-03-2003

They don't try drugs because they're curious of how it'll make
them feel. Nobody does that; that's just a cliche that was created
by the writers of those very special episodes of primetime sitcoms

I did.

Hey, I'm curious what it feels like to be eaten by a tiger. I think
I'll try it out in the quest for new experiences

Most people don't view pain and death and as a particularly positive experience.

**Cheeze-It** · 07-03-2003

I did.

No you didn't.

Most people don't view pain and death and as a particularly positive experience.

But addiction and impairment are?

**confuted** · 07-03-2003

Originally posted by ethic
But addiction and impairment are?

Sad but true: Some people are so pitiful that being impaired is the best way for them to be. You know, if they're too messed up to walk, they probably won't beat and rob old women trying to cross the street.

**Clyde** · 07-03-2003

No you didn't.

... right what would i know about my own life....

Anyhow either way the point remains that classifying anyone who had ever taken drugs as incapable of thinking for themselves is still a ridiculous statement.

But addiction and impairment are?

People don't do drugs looking to experience addiction and impairment.

**Cheeze-It** · 07-03-2003

right what would i know about my own life....

Nothing. That's because the drugs ruined your memory.

Anyhow either way the point remains that classifying anyone who had ever taken drugs as incapable of thinking for themselves is still a ridiculous statement.

It's a brilliant statement. I've already been nominated for a
Pulitzer because of it.

People don't do drugs looking to experience addiction and impairment.

There is nothing positive about drugs, just like there's nothing
positive about being eaten by a tiger.

**MrWizard** · 07-03-2003

I actually know a kid who was sent there. He was a highly intelligent person but due to family problems, often behaved in a very poor manor. His parents sent him there. The things he spoke of when he got out I could not believe. The idea I got from him was "do what we say or we will brutally beat you into submission". Just think about it, you're on an island where some strangers have complete reign over your life. He was smart enough to act the way they wanted and was released after a few years.
I haven't spoken to him in some time so I don't know many of the details anymore.

**confuted** · 07-03-2003

Ethic, that was a bad example. For some people, being eaten by a tiger would be a positive thing... for society, at least

**novacain** · 07-03-2003

>> Nobody capable of thinking for themselves would do drugs; I'm sorry, but it's true.
<<

It is part of the public record that the last two presidents of the US have taken drugs.

With Clinton was pot (but he did not inhale LOL!), GWB jr has had cocaine and alcohol problems (inc a DUI conviction).

Ahhh.........now I think about it that just proves your point.

Legalise all drugs. Accept that there is no way to stop people taking drugs. Start helping those that have a problem with them.

Put the distribution in the hands of medical professionals (instead of greedy criminals).
Then use the resulting taxes to pay for improved treatment and education.

>>There is nothing positive about drugs,<<

Except the medical beifits.
ie
Pot is an easier to handle pain relief (and appetite enhancer) for cancer sufferes who's chemo therapy makes normal pain killers unusable.

**confuted** · 07-03-2003

I have a better idea. Legalize drugs and have them sold on every street corner and in every vending machine. Put them in a wrapper with a label that says "warning: these are laced with large amounts of arsenic and/or cyanide. use of these will most likely kill you immediately" I bet we would take out most of the drug using population right away with that. I'll teach kids to read one way or another.

**Clyde** · 07-04-2003

There is nothing positive about drugs, just like there's nothing
positive about being eaten by a tiger.

... the experience for those who dont go on to become addicts is not particularly negative.

How else do you explain the popularity of none addictive drugs like dope?

**Cheeze-It** · 07-04-2003

Originally posted by Clyde
... the experience for those who dont go on to become addicts is not particularly negative.

How else do you explain the popularity of none addictive drugs like dope?

Rap music.

**rotis23** · 07-04-2003

>>Rap music

So dope(marijuana) has only popular for around 10 - 15 years then?

**confuted** · 07-04-2003

No, before that there were hippies. I've also seen people addicted to pot - it might not be as addictive as heroin, but people don't know what to do without it.