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This is a discussion on Network Programming Board within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; I've noticed an incline in the questions about socket programming, so how about a network programming board? The two most ...

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    Network Programming Board

    I've noticed an incline in the questions about socket programming, so how about a network programming board? The two most common APIs are almost identical (Winsock and Berkeley) as Winsock was derived from Berkeley sockets, but this leads to people posting questions about the Winsock API on the Windows board, and questions about Berkeley sockets on the Linux board. We need a unified board for all socket programming!

    Who's with me!

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    I think you need a "EFFING HELL YES $$$$$ OF COURSE" option
    let's just ignore that stupidity......

    Anyways, I don't know if it would get many posts. There are a lot of sockets questions, but they are usually asking the same thing, and there is a lot more to networking than sockets.

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    Originally posted by frenchfry164
    let's just ignore that stupidity......

    Anyways, I don't know if it would get many posts. There are a lot of sockets questions, but they are usually asking the same thing, and there is a lot more to networking than sockets.
    I didn't suggest a networking board, I suggested a network programming board.

    With too many boards, we would get flashdaddee.com syndrome.
    Eh so your reasoning is, there's already too many boards?

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    Hmm... it's not a bad idea. But it should be introduced on a trial basis, and removed if it gets neglected.

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    Defanently agree with Salem...
    Originally posted by frenchfry164
    There are a lot of sockets questions, but they are usually asking the same thing,...
    If that's the case then there should be FAQ on network programming instead of a new board.
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    >>Eh so your reasoning is, there's already too many boards? -Eibro
    No, I said that if we continually add them, there will be. Things kinda run in cycles. A couple people are doing sockets right now, so there are a bunch of posts about them. After they either figure them out or give up, or some combination of both, there will be posts about something else.
    Away.

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    The logic of "people will still post elsewhere" or "will manage to not read them" needs to be silenced. Of course this will happen, but thats with everything. Based on this logic we could eliminate the entire site!

    That said i think we need a board for this, but a little broader. Perhaps the board could be inclusive to device communication and such? Such as programming that involves printer, scanner, joystick, and other computer communication, etc. Any communication that is done with an outside source could be covered here, as i feel that tends to pop up a fair amount also.

    FAQ entries are always a good idea, but bear in mind some people need person to person communication to grasp certain things, and reading the faq alone will not provide this interaction. It is that reason that makes me include all my contact information in my tutorials. I find that about 55-60% of all the learning that comes from my work is done through communication with the readers.

    I'm not going to write a book on this, so let me wrap it up. In conclusion i think the board is a good idea and should be placed on a trial and error as ygf said, perhaps three or four months is a realistic goal. Its not like the .NET board, which was pointless, it has a purpose and a need and i feel it will suprise many of you with how it works.

    So lets give it a shot, it cant hurt.

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    There are a lot of sockets questions, but they are usually asking the same thing
    So, if we have a dedicated socket programming board, maybe with a small FAQ do you think these questions will be reduced?

    I can't see the point of a board which will fill up with
    - go read beej
    - go read the RFCs
    The same thing could be said about some of the other boards as well. Yes, a new board will no doubt bring problems, you can't prevent that. But, as I said before, the other boards could also be dismissed on this same reasoning.

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    I don't see the problem with posting your networking questions to the board that corresponds to the language you're using.

    It's been said many times, this is a c-programming site. Not a general programming site. Platform specific boards were put in because there are platform-dependant implementaitons of things.

    We don't need any new boards.

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    I like RoD's idea. Have a board for external device communication. It could cover everything from network programming to making a lamp that connects to your computer's parallel port and you click a button in a program and it turns it on.

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    Originally posted by -KEN-
    I don't see the problem with posting your networking questions to the board that corresponds to the language you're using.

    It's been said many times, this is a c-programming site. Not a general programming site. Platform specific boards were put in because there are platform-dependant implementaitons of things.

    We don't need any new boards.
    No one suggested a general programming board. This would be a socket programming board using C/C++.

    Okay, platform specific boards were put in because there's platform-dependant implementations of things? Well, sockets are platform dependant.

    Posting socket programming questions in the C/C++ would be just as wrong as posting questions about WinAPI or some other platform dependant API on those boards.

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    I don't think we get enough questions, and as said, most end up being a simple RTFM response anyway.

    I suppose a new board might provoke additional conversation, but not enough to warrant a forum in it's own right.

    But then network programming is an interesting subject...
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    I don't think that a network programming/external device communication board is too specific. Those kind of questions would work well on the platform specific boards, but I can't see them bringing in many posts on their own.
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    Will a new section cause more people to post there? Possibly yea, but if it ends up being a "dead area" of the forum, then people will tend not to post there. What will happen I dunno, so I voted "I don't care", it's all the same to me.

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    Originally posted by Zach L.
    I don't think that a network programming/external device communication board is too specific. Those kind of questions would work well on the platform specific boards, but I can't see them bringing in many posts on their own.
    That's part of the problem. Questions about Winsock get posted to the Windows board, questions about Berkeley sockets get posted to the Linux board. Windows programmers don't read the Linux board, and Linux programmers don't read the Windows board (theoretically) however, these two APIs are almost identical, and someone who uses Berkeley sockets could easily answer a question about Winsock and vice-versa.

    We can speculate all we want about whether or not this board would draw in enough posts to warrant its creation, but the only way to actually find out is to create it for a period of time. It IS possible that creating this board would generate more posts about socket programming.

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