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    Do you think that you're more intelligent than other people, that you're special or even 'different' because that you think different? It's a stupid question that will probably get pointless answers. And don't try to define intelligence or anything, that's not the interesting part, it won't lead anywhere. Just give me an honest answer what you think about yourself.

    I have no idea, but mathematically, it would be unlikely if I was more intelligent than other people only because I believe I was - so I can't believe that. 'Everybody' can't be smarter than most other people only because they believe they are - it doesn't matter what people believe because it's very likely that they are wrong anyway. So I can't believe what I think about myself, I can't believe what others believe either. People are telling me that I'm more intelligent than other people though (including themselves (?)). So how can they even judge me? I don't get further.

    Only because people lie all the time.

    BTW, this reminds me of Sunlight. Maybe he could say something smart in this situation.

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    I think people are more intelligent in different ways. For instance, many people I know know lots more about things like literature, but I know more things about math and computers. We focus on different things as we grow and learn - if I had concentrated on literature, I'd probably know mroe about that, as well. However, I didn't - I concentrated more on hard sciences, so I know more about that. I think it all depends on what we've focused on.

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    hmmm.... intelligence.

    That depends on how you define intelligence. People tend to
    view intelligence as a mixture of knowledge and logic.
    Look at those IQ test... knowledge and logic.

    I am perceived as knowlegable in some subjects like computers
    and math stuff and very logically, to a point where it's annoying.

    As always, a good mixture of both is neccessary.
    Knowlegde without logical reasoning is worthless.
    Logic without facts to base it on is equally worthless.

    A comment that I very much enjoyed was:
    "I don't like to play nv's opponent... he doesn't make mistakes"
    overheard at one of our bi-weekly Axis&Allies games

    People always try to evaluate each others intelligence.
    This will always be incorrect. You can do test of logical reasoning.
    But knowledge is always subjective. No one can know it all.
    Everybody knows something, but not everything is important.

    Is someone less intelligent because he knows about the mating
    habits of kangaroos instead of computer programming ? Hardly.

    I think history is quite important. It scares me how little people
    know about history. I'm not talking of school grades here.

    I also know people who seem to measure your intelligence
    in words per minute. I don't like talking so much. It's a way of
    communicating. If a small but precise sentence is all that's
    needed, why make a whole 10 minute conversation out of it.

    I can chat with someone for fun, or I can talk to someone
    seriously. Don't mix that up please. If I need an info, I don't
    need a whole chat, I need exactly that, an info. The shortest,
    most precise way possible. If that is done, we can chat as long
    as my chatpartner likes.
    Do anything else and I will perceive you as less intelligent.
    You can be the next Einstein, but that is one of my topmost
    criteria for intelligence. If you can't seperate information
    interchange and chatting, you lost some respect with me


    IQ tests are very subjective. Most of them are in english on the
    net. So it's not only an IQ, but also an english test for all of us
    non-native speakers out here. And you'd be surprised how hard
    it can be to find out if SDFIWH reorganized gives an animal, city
    or river, if you have to do it with foreign cities, rivers and animals.

    Test: Does these characters form
    a) a european town
    b) a european river
    c) a european animal
    d) a european plant
    in german ?

    UBERSELS

    (* hint: yes, you HAVE to rearrange them *)
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    OK. I agree with many things.

    Anyway,

    I think history is quite important. It scares me how little people know about history. I'm not talking of school grades here.
    Why is it more important than anything else? For some reason I'm not very interested in history. The older it gets, the more boring it gets as well. Many people admire old things, they can be interested in an old pyramid, while they won't even look at the new skyscraper in their own town - when in fact, the latter is far more advanced in all possible ways.

    In a similiar way, I'm not impressed by a monkey that can write its own name when I've already seen people doing that my whole life. I don't get it.

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    I'm more intelligent than most other people.

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    Intelligent people are good at whatever they do, whether it be
    baseball, playing a guitar, or coding. They just have a knack
    for picking things up a little faster and a little more competently
    than the rest of us. It's a very recognizeable trait.

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    Yes, history is -very- important. But, honestly, i admit i'm very bad with history; however I feel that there are important things that can be learned from history (learning from people's mistakes and so forth). I'm definitely going to study some history though (for personal interest; not taking classes but just reading books on my own), because i wan't to hear -stories- from the past (and i'm sure there are -many-); and not just u.s. history but -world- history. I have actually read some books on east-asian history and it really changed me outlook on that region (motivating me to learn more about other places as well like india, africa, places in europe etc..). I hope that many of you out there don't just invest your learning on straight sciences but other subjects as well; it
    -will- make you more intelligent. Another thing, in many ways intelligence is -earned- and not given (imo).

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    i think that intelligence is the ability to solve problems and find
    the hidden links in a very difficult problem... you know, genious...

    so i can hardly see how a man that is good in history is intelligent
    just because he is good in history.

    if you are intelligent you must be good not in everything you do
    (as rick said) but good in things that requires brain activity!

    so, i think that i can easily say if someone is intelligent or not if i
    talk with him, but i am not a racist!

    i think that i am smart, smarter than the average
    i am also a MENSA member (but usually people take this as a bad
    thing to say)

    i also think that people who programs are also very very smart...
    and i think that here in this forum there are many persons smarter
    than me.
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    intelligence is knowing when to shut your mouth, sit back, and nod...

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    Originally posted by ehsiq
    i think that intelligence is the ability to solve problems and find
    the hidden links in a very difficult problem... you know, genious...

    so i can hardly see how a man that is good in history is intelligent
    just because he is good in history.

    if you are intelligent you must be good not in everything you do
    (as rick said) but good in things that requires brain activity!
    Quite true. One minor point--for intelligent people, everything requires brain activity. Running isn't moving one foot in front of the other as fast as possible, it's finding the optimum efficiency of your own body. It's not punching someone as hard as you can, it's using as much of your body as you can to hit while leaving as little as possible vulnerable. It's not endless practice to improve your drawing abilities, it's learning the proportions of the human body sufficiently well.
    so, i think that i can easily say if someone is intelligent or not if i talk with him, but i am not a racist!

    i think that i am smart, smarter than the average
    i am also a MENSA member (but usually people take this as a bad
    thing to say)
    Heh. MENSA. I could pass the Mensa entrace exam(120 IQ, I think) blindfolded, double amputated, sleep deprived, and under the influence of illegal psychoactive drugs. And I'm modest, too...

    The thing I find about IQ tests is that people with high scores(130+) very rarely strike me as unintelligent, whereas people with low scores(100-) strike me as intelligent almost never.(I decline to say never because I don't know the IQ scores of people I find intelligent).

    Fortunately, I've come to the point finally where I can just accept the difference between my own mind and others' minds.
    All generalizations are false

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    >if you are intelligent you must be good not in everything you do
    (as rick said) but good in things that requires brain activity!<

    Siq, it seems to me that anything that requires intelligence
    requires brain activity--and vice versa. Scientists generally
    regard intelligence as a measure of how a person adapts
    to his environment, his ability to make changes in his own
    behavior, or to change the enviroment in which he finds
    himself, or even his ability to find an entirely new environment
    if necessary.
    Your interpretation of intelligence as an ability to solve problems
    is correct only in relation to one type of brain activity. There is a
    clear distinction between the analytical, or what scientists call
    convergent type of thinking that you espouse and another
    mode of thought, called divergent thinking which encompasses
    a richness of ideas and originality of thought. Both are necessary
    to creative performance, although in different degrees according
    to the task or occupation. A mathemetician or a programmer
    might exhibit more converrgent than divergent thinking and an
    artist and historian the opposite.

    My statement regarding intelligent people being good at every-
    thing they do is a generalisation based on personal observance,
    and it is a proposition I still maintain. Most, if not all "intelligent"
    or "smart" people are good at everything to which they apply
    themselves.

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    >> People are telling me that I'm more intelligent than other people though >>(including themselves (?)). So how can they even judge me? I don't get further.

    It's obvious do something stupid, now you needn't do anything that will hurt your GPA, just need to something that will take down your percieved level of intelligence. It doesn't have to be with math or science just do something without common sense or something "smart people" wouldn't normally do.



    Here's an example, you might wear glasses (meeting the geek image) then forget

    your glasses one day. People will either think your stupid for not

    reconizing their name or for forgeting your glasses!

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    I think I'm intellegent it some areas but not most. What does common sense account for?

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