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Are we a disease?

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    _B-L-U-E_ Betazep's Avatar
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    Post Are we a disease?

    I have argued that we are a disease on this planet. I have held this opinion long before the movie Matrix was released. Do you think that we are or are not? Give supporting argument.
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    That's an interesting theory, betazep, but don't apply it to
    this world; apply it to the universe, because that's where
    we're going. I sometimes think we are like a virus. But all the
    viruses known to man have proved unkillable--I don't think we
    can apply that label to hom sapiens.

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    Ahh... but we shall see. Remember how we are told that people said flying was impossible.... or how we never thought we would get processors up to 2Gig. We may suprise ourselves with the discovery of folding space or something. We might find black holes that are portals to new uncharted territory. Then the disease spreads... then the life continues... in and on new hosts.

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    we are more like a parasite...We need this world to survive, but we're destroying it.
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    well, I have thought about that, but I don't think we are a disease because genetical selection selected us, but wait until the next dominant race (of course there's got to be one) must be even worse than us...

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    That is an interesting way to look at it. You are smart, oskilian. Do you think that we will be our own doom though?

    I feel that inevitibly we will kill ourselves off. Not all of us. But if there is only enough food for 1 million people per year someday in the far off future, one billion people would not be able to thrive.

    That seems to be pretty much common sense, but perhaps we will find a means to live without food as we know it today by that point.

    When does the extensive breeding stop, though? Is it when we are all standing shoulder to shoulder because there is no room to walk or move.

    Look at China. They have major population problems....
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    If we are a disease, I've got a rope hanging in my garage if you want to do your part to cure the Earth.
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    You bring up a good point. It is part of our patterning to maintain our own lives... and most of us want the lives of our loved ones to be maintained as well.

    You want you and your family to live. You may want family of your own someday. Perhaps you will want several children.

    I want the same. So do the majority. This is why our population increases exponentially whilst our food production only doubles. The great economic strain that humanity creates for itself.

    We value our lives and our ability to live as we wish, which in turn may destroy the fabric of humanity in many many generations to come. It is bitter irony. One that I wouldn't change by hanging myself, mind you. Yet I have always been perplexed by this issue.

    My wife wants four kids. Somewhere in my heart, I wish that I didn't have to bring so many bodies in this world... but I sure do love my boy. I envy those that feel this degree of love for many children. It must be blissful. Therefore, patterning inside my very soul wishes for more children, but my mindset is that humans are a disease and we are destroying everything to include ourselves.

    Anybody else have valid comments... Let's hear from some of the "No's"....

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    Originally posted by Breach23
    we are more like a parasite...We need this world to survive, but we're destroying it.
    That's the very reason we're leaving it. The earth is our host,
    but it's a finite host and we'll have to find a new one someday
    and leave this place to series x4.1.1 and his fellow arachnids.

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    actually the growth of the population of the world has slowed dramatically in the last few hundred years, people used to have really large families in the past like 10 - 15 kids!!!!! because they werent interested in their carrieer's like modern people and they didn't have condoms lol. Also they had security if they had a large family, they didnt have pensions and such.
    Anyway thats me all typed out and most of it's bulls**t.
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    humanity is not a virus, it is something far more complex, disturbing, and dangerous.

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    I agree that the human race is parasitical... I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. All life-forms exist purely as a way to perpetuate the DNA that they house. Human DNA has evolved and created an almost perfect shell (compared to other earthly life-forms). This is good news for humans... but DNA cares not about the larger host.

    I don't want to wipe everyone out or anything... I just hope we don't find a way off this planet before we destroy it.

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    The funny thing is that humanity will never end, in essance. This is because when there isn't a human left, there won't be anyone to say "humanity is gone"... it would almost be as if it never existed.

    Humanity exists because we are here saying that it does. Words are arbitrary, yes, but this is even deeper than that. If humanity ceases to exist, there will be no one to know that it doesn't exist anymore, therefor it never did exist. IT's all a matter of perception.

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    Humans are selfish and ultimately rather stupid animals, just like the so-called "lower" species. Currently, they are just much more destructive than other species: so I'm not sure if 'disease' is the right word, unless you want to describe all life as a disease. (Although in a different context you could say that life is a sexually transmitted disease...) The only ultimate difference is that humans (eventually) will be able to colonize other worlds, barring global catastrophe. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is not clear.

    I should say, though, that birth control is slowing population growth fast: the growth rate has already nearly ceased in Europe, and would be here to if it weren't for Latin American immigration. Once the third-world countries modernize their societies, population growth will cease there too. I think the UN estimate for the peak population, which will occur around the start of the 22nd century, is somewhere around 10-20 billion. Way too damn many, of course, but it could be much worse. And even if not for that, the Malthusian crunch can't be averted forever.

    The funny thing is that humanity will never end, in essance. This is because when there isn't a human left, there won't be anyone to say "humanity is gone"... it would almost be as if it never existed. Humanity exists because we are here saying that it does. Words are arbitrary, yes, but this is even deeper than that. If humanity ceases to exist, there will be no one to know that it doesn't exist anymore, therefor it never did exist. IT's all a matter of perception.
    You don't think other animals are sentient, or even that they could become so with the right evolutionary pressure?

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    you people watch way to much TV and believe way to much more of it...
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