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    Originally posted by ingall
    And your point...?
    You tried to prove how we can have a small army and still be fine. Also, you tried to say that we still could have won the Revolutionary War if the British truly cared and if the French never helped us.

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    I don't really get to active on political affairs. Nobody sees things like I do in office. I know there is a lot of corruption, and even the people you think are completely honest may be in office only for self-gain. I know people are going to disagree and tell me I'm wrong, and I don't care.

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    1. I am a Republican

    2. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Don't want a baby? Learn some self-confrol, don't have sex. Abortion is the most extreme act of cowardice imaginable.

    3. Under Hitler, look what happened to the Jews, who had no guns. Under Pol Pot, look what happened to the Cambodians, who had no guns. This is what our founding fathers were trying to protect us against with the 2nd amendment. I will fight for that amendment as long as I live. Remember, it takes a person to pull a trigger.

    4. I love America, and it angers me to hear people say that we should have the right to burn the American flag. It stuns me to see our own pledge of alliegance banned in 8 states. What kind of country bans its own pledge? Mine, I'm sorry to say.

    5. Illegal immigrants need to have their asses tracked down and kicked outta this country

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    >>2. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Don't want a baby? Learn some self-confrol, don't have sex. Abortion is the most extreme act of cowardice imaginable.


    I disagree. Its not always about self control and taking the right steps because $$$$ happens. Sometimes it is worse for the child to have to live. What if the father is abusive and the mom is too scared to give it up? Then the child grows up in poverty and abuse to be a crack dealer. The child has to suffer for the idiot parents? $$$$ that.

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    "1. I am a Republican"

    See this stuff just makes me think that Republicans are either A: Stupid, or B: Evil.

    "2. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Don't want a baby? Learn some self-confrol, don't have sex. Abortion is the most extreme act of cowardice imaginable."

    People who think abortion is murder need to learn some basic biology, no not even that, basic common sense and a touch of reasoning will do.

    "3. Under Hitler, look what happened to the Jews, who had no guns. Under Pol Pot, look what happened to the Cambodians, who had no guns. This is what our founding fathers were trying to protect us against with the 2nd amendment. I will fight for that amendment as long as I live. Remember, it takes a person to pull a trigger."

    What a load of cods-wallop.

    "5. Illegal immigrants need to have their asses tracked down and kicked outta this country"

    Immigration from 3rd world countries can cause economic and social problems to the West, its an issue that has to be treated delicately, we are talking about people many of whom have had horrible horrible lives because they live in countries with a whole host of problems, and guess what the West is to blame for much of them.

    "* waiting for heated criticism *"

    You got it
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    Abortion in an abstract way is murder, yes, but in a direct sense of the term murder it is not. In no means does the direct interpretation of the word murder apply to abortion when done in the proper manner.

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    Abortion isn't murder because a foetus is not a person, its a collection of cells.

    Valid arguments can be made about SPECIFIC dates for example:

    After X no. of weeks, a foetus shows a developed nervous system which indicates a high degree of awareness, via blah blah blah, therefore I believe that it is immoral to terminate a foetus after X no. of weeks.

    The idea that many pro-life nuts have that a week after fertilisation a ball of 100 cells not much larger than a pin head is in fact a human being is laughable.

    What I love is that many of these pro-life nuts have no problem with hunting! They won't kill an unconcious collection of cells that is in essence no different to the skin cells you shed when you take your tea-shirt off, but killing a concious intelligent animal just for kicks, that fine..... riiiiiight.
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    1. I am a Republican

    2. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Don't want a baby? Learn some self-confrol, don't have sex. Abortion is the most extreme act of cowardice imaginable.

    3. Under Hitler, look what happened to the Jews, who had no guns. Under Pol Pot, look what happened to the Cambodians, who had no guns. This is what our founding fathers were trying to protect us against with the 2nd amendment. I will fight for that amendment as long as I live. Remember, it takes a person to pull a trigger.

    4. I love America, and it angers me to hear people say that we should have the right to burn the American flag. It stuns me to see our own pledge of alliegance banned in 8 states. What kind of country bans its own pledge? Mine, I'm sorry to say.

    5. Illegal immigrants need to have their asses tracked down and kicked outta this country

    * waiting for heated criticism *
    finally, some one i agree with.

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    >>Abortion isn't murder because a foetus is not a person, its a collection of cells.

    Cells which are alive. Now dont get me wrong i am 100% pro choice, but when something is on a track to be living, or is alive in this case, it is murder to remove its life. For example, if you take a regular cell, say the ameoba(sp?) and destroy it, you murderd it. Cells are alive, but i dont consider that murder. What i mean by in a way it is murder is that you are stopping a process bound to end in life.

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    Originally posted by Clyde
    we are talking about people many of whom have had horrible horrible lives because they live in countries with a whole host of problems, and guess what the West is to blame for much of them.

    Agreed.

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    > Abortion is the most extreme act of cowardice imaginable.

    What about rape? Incest? In a case when the mother and fetus will both die if it's seen through?

    > Under Hitler, look what happened to the Jews, who had no guns.

    I love this argument - it makes me giggle. If the Jews had had guns, they would have easily dispatched THE GERMAN FSCKING ARMY. No difficulty at all there.

    > it angers me to hear people say that we should have the right to burn the American flag.

    Why shouldn't we? It's a very powerful form of protest. And if you pull out "because so many have fought and died for it", you're exactly the kind of person those protests target. Sure, there are some that burn it to raeg agenst teh masheen!!!1, but there are plenty of people who feel things that this country does are disgraceful to the very people that did fight and die for the flag. They fought and died so people would have that right.

    > t stuns me to see our own pledge of alliegance banned in 8 states.

    Well, if that whole "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" had been paid attention to, we wouldn't have that sort of problem, would we? Some people don't believe we're a nation "under God". Whoever originally wrote the pledge obviously didn't, or he at least felt like following the first line of the Bill of Rights; the original version of the pledge didn't have that in it. For something that's in such an obvious spot, the establishment clause sure is ignored a lot.

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    I didn't want to get into an argument, but I can't just let this one go:

    Why shouldn't we? It's a very powerful form of protest. And if you pull out "because so many have fought and died for it", you're exactly the kind of person those protests target. Sure, there are some that burn it to raeg agenst teh masheen!!!1, but there are plenty of people who feel things that this country does are disgraceful to the very people that did fight and die for the flag. They fought and died so people would have that right.
    If you said that to just about any war veteran in this country, they would probably turn red in the face with anger. If you don't like the way this country is being run, you can change it with your VOTE. Burning an American flag is not just an insult to American government, it is an insult to America and Americans. It is an insult to the very country which gives you any rights at all. Veterans did not fight in war so that their own countrymen could spit on their country by burning a flag.

    All pro-abortionists pull out the "What about rape?" question when they have no other defense for the killing of an innocent baby. So, what about rape? Yes it's a horrible thing, and nobody asks to be raped. Which is worse, a poor woman having a harder time in life because she has a child(which she could put up for adoption), or an innocent baby being killed simply because it isn't wanted? All people deserve a chance at life, no matter what their mother thinks. Everybody tries to justify it by saying that a fetus is not really a human being. If you take an arbitrary cell and you put it into a womans womb, what would happen? Nothing. If you took an egg that was has been fertilized just one second ago and put it in a womans womb, what would happen? A human being would develop. So clearly there is a direct connection between the fertilization of an egg and human life. Saying that a fetus is not a human being is just a lame excuse.


    I never said the Jews could have defeated the German army. At least they would have had a chance to defend themselves though. What's so funny about it? If just half of the Jews had firearms, do you really think so many of them would have been tortured and killed in the concentration camps?

    Well, if that whole "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" had been paid attention to, we wouldn't have that sort of problem, would we?
    Which law are you talking about here? See what I'm saying? You get ideas and then you get carried away with them without using any logical thought. Congress never made a law saying that "all must say the pledge or they will be punished."
    I am saying that it is wrong to prevent school children from saying the pledge simply because it contains a reference to God. If you don't like that part, skip it. The fact is that the vast majority of this country believes in God, including our founding fathers. If you don't like it, don't say it. But don't keep the rest of us from saying it as well.
    It is my opinion that anybody who is proud of their country would say the pledge(maybe without the God part) gladly.

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    > Which law are you talking about here?

    How do you think "Under God" got into the pledge in the first place?

    > It is my opinion that anybody who is proud of their country would say the pledge(maybe without the God part) gladly.

    That's true - I do say it (well, I haven't said it in years, but I would if I were ever asked to), but I omit that part. That's fine. But that's just me. Omitting that line draws unnecessary attention and scrutiny to someone just for their religious beliefs. It implies most non-Christian people aren't welcome. Atheists? No. Hindis? No. (gasp) Muslims? No. Our nation is under "God", not Allah, Shiva, or anything or anyone else.

    > pro-abortionists

    Pro-choice. There's a bit of a difference.

    > human being would develop.

    You sound pretty sure about that...

    > do you really think so many of them would have been tortured and killed in the concentration camps?

    Probably. The Jews weren't in possession of many tanks, AFAIK. And the ones who really felt able and willing to fight did. That's what's called a resistance.

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    and guess what the West is to blame for much of them.
    what the .......... is that. every time, its always americas fault. were the only ones that every get off our a$$es! wow, we helped get countries independance. we helped get rif of tyrants. we gave out $hit loads of money, we never even think if they disserve it or not (cause of the people). if we didnt get involved we would get b*tched at, if we do get involved its imperialism.

    i hope theres a draft, this country needs some balls, badly.

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    How do you think "Under God" got into the pledge in the first place?
    lol...how the hell is that an answer to the question "Which law are you talking about?". The first amendment prevents the government from stealing your religion, so to speak. It does not say that there is no God. As I said before, the founding fathers believed in God and attributed our success as a nation, along with the well-being of all things, to God. That was their belief and that was the belief of pretty much the entire nation at that time. That is still the majority opinion today. If you don't agree with that, you won't be punished(that's where the first amendment comes in), but you will just have to live with the fact that for years this country has attributed it's success and it's wellbeing at least partly to God.

    Pro-choice. There's a bit of a difference.
    What's the difference? You're just trying to make it sound better. Do you really believe that a woman and a woman alone has the right to decide whether a baby lives or dies? There are certain rights that a person just does not have, in this or any other country.

    Probably. The Jews weren't in possession of many tanks, AFAIK. And the ones who really felt able and willing to fight did. That's what's called a resistance.
    Yeah, I do know what a resistance is. It was a crumby resistance, and do you know why? Largely because the Jews weren't allowed to have firearms. Maybe most of them still would have died(I'm not saying that's true). But at least they could have fought for their lives instead of just taking it from Hitler. Basically what I am saying is that firearms are the best defense we as a society have against tyranny. While tyranny may not be an apparent problem now, you canot know that it will never be one in the future, even in this country.

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