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    Poetry is only good when it rhymes...

    I've developed an addiction to browsing people's LiveJournals. A
    lot of these people seem to feel the need to write poetry, and
    everytime I read these poems, I feel embarrassed for the authors.

    The main problem is, the poetry doesn't rhyme. And in the rare
    instances where it does rhyme, they've totally screwed up the
    syllable count, which screws up the rhythm and makes the poetry
    even more boring to read.

    Unless a poem rhymes, it will suck. That's a given. If any of you
    write poetry that doesn't rhyme, you're a failure as an artist. The
    only people that think that poetry doesn't need to rhyme are the
    elitist, aristocratic snobs that also believe that paintings don't need
    to include shape, form, and space. You know, the people that spend
    $25,000 on scribbles and splashes.

    But (!), although rhyming is very important, there still needs to be
    substance in the words; they need to mean something. And that's
    why most hiphop lyrics suck, too.


    People have offered to read me their poetry before. I always refuse.
    Hearing someone's poetry makes me feel too uncomfortable. Chances
    are it's going to suck, and chances are I'm going to giggle because
    I feel embarrassed for them. And if I don't giggle, then I'm going to
    be put into a position where I have to lie and say that it was good,
    just so I don't hurt their feelings (I'm a sensitive dude, I don't like
    hurting people).
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    I hate poetry. I cannot stand 'hidden messages'. Why the hell don't these writers just get to the point and say "Hiroshima sucked!" instead of "and then... and then... and then...". I hate English class in school, it ........es me off. When I write my diploma I'll probably go postal.

    edit: Also, why should we learn how to 'interpret', figurately, poems and stories? At school if I look at poem or story literally I get 50%. It's Evil.
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    Ok just to start I am not a huge peotry buff but I like some poets. And I agree with you to a certain extent. Some people go way off the deep end and try to write "poetry", but most just suck. Like the modern poetry written by "common" people just doesn't make sence and usually sucks. However there are the classics like Hemingway and Peter Christensen who don't rhyme but get a point and a story through to the reader. Some other great poetry like Robert Frost's "The Wood-Pile" is creative and interesting to say the least.

    So in conclusion, not all poetry has to fit a certain rhyme scheme and what not just in order for it to be good. It just has to have some creativity and insight. But yeah the people who pay outrageous amounts of money for paintings of people's fingernails and what have you are totally out of their minds.

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    Originally posted by Maverik
    Ok just to start I am not a huge peotry buff but I like some poets. And I agree with you to a certain extent. Some people go way off the deep end and try to write "poetry", but most just suck. Like the modern poetry written by "common" people just doesn't make sence and usually sucks. However there are the classics like Hemingway and Peter Christensen who don't rhyme but get a point and a story through to the reader. Some other great poetry like Robert Frost's "The Wood-Pile" is creative and interesting to say the least.

    So in conclusion, not all poetry has to fit a certain rhyme scheme and what not just in order for it to be good. It just has to have some creativity and insight. But yeah the people who pay outrageous amounts of money for paintings of people's fingernails and what have you are totally out of their minds.

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    >>why should we learn how to 'interpret', figurately, poems and stories?

    So in the future when some one tells you something you can interpret what they are actually saying (filtering out their bias).

    Try some Wilfred Owen poetry (you will either like it or kill yourself).

    >>You know, the people that spend
    $25,000 on scribbles and splashes.

    Look up how much the Australian Gov spent on 'Blue Poles'.

    Then look at it.

    http://www.beatmuseum.org/pollock/images/bluepoles.jpg

    Poles? Blue?

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    Re: Poetry is only good when it rhymes...

    Originally posted by ethic
    I've developed an addiction to browsing people's LiveJournals. A
    lot of these people seem to feel the need to write poetry, and
    everytime I read these poems, I feel embarrassed for the authors.

    The main problem is, the poetry doesn't rhyme. And in the rare
    instances where it does rhyme, they've totally screwed up the
    syllable count, which screws up the rhythm and makes the poetry
    even more boring to read.

    Unless a poem rhymes, it will suck. That's a given. If any of you
    write poetry that doesn't rhyme, you're a failure as an artist. The
    only people that think that poetry doesn't need to rhyme are the
    elitist, aristocratic snobs that also believe that paintings don't need
    to include shape, form, and space. You know, the people that spend
    $25,000 on scribbles and splashes.

    But (!), although rhyming is very important, there still needs to be
    substance in the words; they need to mean something. And that's
    why most hiphop lyrics suck, too.


    People have offered to read me their poetry before. I always refuse.
    Hearing someone's poetry makes me feel too uncomfortable. Chances
    are it's going to suck, and chances are I'm going to giggle because
    I feel embarrassed for them. And if I don't giggle, then I'm going to
    be put into a position where I have to lie and say that it was good,
    just so I don't hurt their feelings (I'm a sensitive dude, I don't like
    hurting people).
    You sir, are a dumb-ass
    Your opinions reak of ignorance
    Insights of putred pugnance
    You sir, are a dumb-ass

    You sir, are a jack-ass
    You'r foolish and idiotic
    Ideas quite chaotic
    You sir, are a jack-ass

    You sir, are a dumb-jack-ass
    I hate you, I hate you
    and this verse doesnt rhyme
    nor does it's meter fit becuase
    You sir, are a dumb-jack-ass



    EDIT: I said ass, a lot.
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    Re: Re: Poetry is only good when it rhymes...

    Originally posted by dbgt goten
    You sir, are a dumb-ass
    Your opinions reak of ignorance
    Insights of putred pugnance
    You sir, are a dumb-ass
    ...
    ...
    ...
    Ignorance and pugnance don't rhyme. And even if they did
    rhyme, it wouldn't matter, because pugnance isn't a word.
    But if pugnance was a word, and it meant the same thing
    as repugnance, your couplet would still suck because you
    misspelled putred...

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    Re: Re: Poetry is only good when it rhymes...

    Originally posted by dbgt goten
    You sir, are a dumb-ass
    Your opinions reak of ignorance
    Insights of putred pugnance
    You sir, are a dumb-ass

    You sir, are a jack-ass
    You'r foolish and idiotic
    Ideas quite chaotic
    You sir, are a jack-ass

    You sir, are a dumb-jack-ass
    I hate you, I hate you
    and this verse doesnt rhyme
    nor does it's meter fit becuase
    You sir, are a dumb-jack-ass



    EDIT: I said ass, a lot.
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    Poetic license--biziotch!

    Sp33ling iS 4 t3h sk00l! n07 t3h 3ntR4n37!

    And--pugnance and ignorance DO rhyme--even though pugnance is technically only a slang shortning of repugnance.


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    Originally posted by dbgt goten
    pugnance is technically only a slang shortning of repugnance.

    Don't lie. Just admit that you used a word that doesn't exist. Nobody
    has ever said "pugnance" instead of "repugnance" on purpose.
    It isn't slang, that's the lamest thing I've ever heard... If I made
    such a dumb mistake, I would never be able to show my face in
    public again. It must be extremely embarrassing for you.
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    Originally posted by ethic
    It must be extremely embarrassing for you.
    Not really, no.

    Most rediculous thing you've heard? Perhaps, but you've you said in the thread post the most rediculous thing EVER. We are even.
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    Originally posted by novacain
    >>why should we learn how to 'interpret', figurately, poems and stories?

    So in the future when some one tells you something you can interpret what they are actually saying (filtering out their bias).

    Try some Wilfred Owen poetry (you will either like it or kill yourself).

    >>You know, the people that spend
    $25,000 on scribbles and splashes.

    Look up how much the Australian Gov spent on 'Blue Poles'.

    Then look at it.

    http://www.beatmuseum.org/pollock/images/bluepoles.jpg

    Poles? Blue?

    Fractal my azz!
    AH! WTF they bought that $$$$!? I couldn't even tell what it was!

    brb, getting the leinfeld... got it... kinda dusty, loading magazine...placing magazine...firing test shot... Okay, I'm ready to injure some Retarded-Australian Gov Ass.

    >>novacain: So in the future when some one tells you something you can interpret what they are actually saying (filtering out their bias).

    Yes, I'm sure that in the future one of the contracts I'll have to sign for will be in riddles. If they want us to be able to filter what people are saying then they should teach us more practical methods and texts.
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    Ignorance and pugnance don't rhyme. And even if they did
    rhyme, it wouldn't matter, because pugnance isn't a word.
    But if pugnance was a word, and it meant the same thing
    as repugnance, your couplet would still suck because you
    misspelled putred...
    way to layeth the spanketh. Hey, whoa, layeth and spanketh...nevermind...they're not real words I'm sorry I suck...

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    Drop the pretentiousness. Poetry can be fun to interpret and read. And if you thought all real poetry had to rhyme, most ancient Greek and Roman poetry did not. It followed a certain rhythm instead.

    And there's no use quibbling over whether pugnance is a word. Any short utterance with meaning is technically a word. And poets can get away with breaking the usual language rules anyway; yes, they're that special. Which reminds me--I am going to have to inspect dbgt goten's poetic license to make sure he is allowed to invent words. Oh, and his wallet. I'm also the wallet inspecter (allusion to The Simpsons).

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