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    it would not be possible for me to live without filesharing......
    oh i'm sorry! i didn;t realize my fist was rushing to meet ur face!

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    RoD, don't worry about it. It's your PC, and your college cannot search it without your permission. What I recommend you do is to get a HD-Bay, then get a 120GB WD Caviar and put all of your Games, and Music on it(Nothing essential like C++, put that on its own Partition on a primary HD). Then if you detect possible hostility at your college, or are simply alarmed, then simply remove the HD from the Bay(takes 2 sec with a sliding bay) and put it in your backpack. There is nothing to worry about. You could also password your BootLoader, I am positive that they will not remove the HD from your PC. Plus, Sharman and (is it Digital Music?) pay lots of money in royalties for AltNet so that you can listen to stuff. In any case, your admin won't know what the hell you are downloading, unless if they analyse the protocols, and no american schools to my knowledge analyze anything other than HTTP(Actually I think the ISP's do HTTP analysis, not the school). All they can do is limit your bandwidth. If you are that paranoid then go get a cell phone that has free evenings and weekends on the plan, and dial in to a DSL(could be a company, or a friends house routing you via Modem to Cable).

    edit: No schools in the world bother to analyse FileSharing protocols so that they can see what their students download. The RIAA probably makes rather pathetic attempts at it as it is. Fear nothing, the media is just trying to scare people so that file sharing ceases.
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    i think it's wrong how we're all comming together to help aid someone who's confessed to committing a crime

    just freakin kidding, yeah right, i love it


    got any suggestions for blood stains???
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    Originally posted by dP munky
    i think it's wrong how we're all comming together to help aid someone who's confessed to committing a crime

    just freakin kidding, yeah right, i love it


    got any suggestions for blood stains???
    Blood stains? Your sick!

    Haha, j/k. Actually I'm picturing a shot through the head with the splatter all over the wall. Anyone here play Hitman 2?

    Edit: BTW, he didn't confess to commiting a crime. There are plenty of artists who just want to be heard. He obviously owns all of the music he ripped, so he is allowed to do so for backup purposes.
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    >>BTW, he didn't confess to commiting a crime. There are plenty of artists who just want to be heard. He obviously owns all of the music he ripped, so he is allowed to do so for backup purposes.

    damn straight!

    j/k about the blood stains.....
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    thats a really good idea.....i have a backup 10gig, i could take an old cdrom i have, gut the insides, mount the 10gig inside of it and cut the back off fir cables, then use that as a removeable because my cdrom bays have quick releases.....HMMMM

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    they'd never catch me. I only download an album at a time and burn it straight away. My router hides my true external ip! HA! And if they even said to me "Why were you downloading it" id say "I was making a back-up of my cd that i BOUGHT, cause i dont know how to copy cds, but now ive lost my original" Booya!

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    Bout ur mp3 to whatever extension prog.; just write a bat file ( huh old-skool)and put it where it belongs in windows.... then you only have to go to start->execute->erase_all_evidence

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    Well use programs like winrar where you can encrypt the files and also compress them...

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    damned if i can member wat i used to use to encrypt $$$$, started with a "p".....

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    >>It's your PC, and your college cannot search it without your permission.

    No but they can cut off your conection, kick you out for violating the fine print of the agreements you will have to sign.

    Here in Australia three major unis and a number of ISP's are being forced, under threat of legal action, to turn over records of users (so these users can be prosecuted for exactly what you are doing).

    These users have been tracked using the common sharing programs (that have been mentioned) to download copyright material.

    Either way you put it.........its stealing.

    I laugh that some of you want to become game programmers but steal games. Directly reducing the industries ability to hire more programmers.
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    >>No but they can cut off your conection, kick you out for violating the fine print of the agreements you will have to sign.

    he said it was on his home connection, the college wont take his connection....they cant

    im not advocating stealing games....i dont download cracked versions of software, how can you be wrong w/"stealing" mp3's...dont you think you've been bent over in front of the RIAA long enough? i know that if i want 2 songs off of a cd and they are goind to charge me 15 bucks for the cd...im getting screwed....prices of cd's havent come down in almost 20 years. but they never will cuz people wont boycott....i'll admit i've downloaded mp3's but for me, if i download the new "insert band here" album, and i like it, I'll go to the store and drop the 15 bucks on the counter, if i dont like the new "insert band here" album...then i delete the mp3's, cuz they suck and save myself 15 bucks to put gas in my car

    thank god you dont live in australlia ROD
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    >>im not advocating stealing games

    Your excuses are not a justification for stealing someones livelyhood. Its just that it is not your money, yet....

    Each item stolen is money the band/artist/programmer/author did not get. It is a dollar that will not go back into the economy to pay the CD store salesmen, delivery drivers, ect (or even tax).

    It wont be the top guys who get the axe, it will be the little guys making minimum wage.

    >>he said it was on his home connection, the college wont take his connection....they cant

    The college can cut of his tuition, access to the college network and suspend/terminate him for his illegal activities.

    Do you think the college wants these people looking into all the copyright software the college has, checking it is valid? Think of the cost in manhours!

    Do you think the college will enjoy them taking the college to court to get some info on you? How much do you think it would cost in legal fees for the college?

    Then we start on his home ISP. Read the fine print when you signed on? Read the changes to the acceptable use policy online?

    IPS's here have already been threatened with legal action if they don't turn over user records.

    You may even be liable for not only the copyright holders legal expenses but also the colleges.
    That is huge $.
    But hey you can just go to another college. Except they all know what you have done and refuse to sign you on.



    >>thank god you dont live in australlia ROD
    They are 'testing the waters' here as we have stricter privacy laws and weaker copyright laws. ie Sony PS2 mod chips are legal here.

    If they can do it here then..................

    >>prices of cd's havent come down in almost 20 years.

    They have been around for how many years? (my first car had an 8 track cartridge player, ever seen one?)
    Last edited by novacain; 04-09-2003 at 02:08 AM.
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    >>my first car had an 8 track cartridge player, ever seen one?
    i resent that, lol, yes, i've seen an 8 track....cd's came out in the early 80's

    what about bands that offer mp3's on their sites?

    either way, i wont pirate software, but if i wanna check out a cd to see if i should buy it, i wont think twice about downloading an mp3
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    > Each item stolen is money the band/artist/programmer/author did not get

    Have you seen the way money from record sales is broken down? The artist gets very little money from record sales; most of it goes to the label. Most artists make most of their money from touring.

    And RoD, don't worry about it; most of the guys they've busted have hundreds of thousands of files available for share. One guy had over a million. I've got about 9 GB of MP3s (and probably 80% of those are from my own CDs) and my school doesn't even blink. I don't use Kazaa or anything, though; our school's firewall blocks access to everything I've tried to use. It's not you'll be the only person with MP3s.

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