View Poll Results: should women be able to have "high risk" jobs in the military?

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    In my opinion, if men can be forced by their government to go off and fight and die for a cause, possibly an unworthy and wrong cause (e.g., the Vietnam War), in the interest of fairness and equality, the other 51% of the population should have that duty as well. Better than that would be to eliminate the draft completely and make the military all volunteer forever. Men, women, homosexual people, and almost anyone else mentally capable should be able to defend their nation if they want to do that.

    The thing about feminism is that if the female professors (Women's Studies) who are at the center of feminist doctrine do not come up with off-the-wall ideas that get them into the news they might find students taking something else and therefore lose their jobs, I guess. I am not offended if a woman is attracted to me; but, if a woman or man finds being called something or being looked at in a certain suggestive way offensive, other people have an obligation to respect their wishes within reasonable limits. Many of the most vocal feminists occassionally make unrealistic and sometimes bigoted demands, and no one should feel obligated to respect those fantasies.

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    there are about a million reasons why women are not allowed on the front lines, i won't go into them because its a lot to write, mainly it might work in other contries but the U.S. population is still to chauvinist(ie, not run by feminesists) to accept it without major problems. especially in combat sitations.
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    i still will never understand feminists, they scream equal rights, but then they want special treatmen, doesnt special treatment make things unequal???
    guns dont kill people, abortion clinics kill people.

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    What do you mean by high risk though?
    I would think the one in charge of military tactics, whom has
    thousands under him/her, has alot more risk and responsibility than a grunt on the front lines.

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    when 'they' say high risk i think theyre refering to infantry kind of jobs...actual fighting.
    guns dont kill people, abortion clinics kill people.

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    I agree that the high risk jobs would probably be the infantry man, err, PERSON, but if a woman can pass the same standards men can, why not let them/make them fight? I have also heard that women are better at multi-tasking than men, so they could be the militaries prime strategists/logistics people. Also, nowadays, aren't even "behind the lines" support people at risk? Take the recent event in the "op Iraqi freedom" with private Lynch. She wasn't even supposed to be where enemies would be. Nowadays, the supply lines or personel are targeted by our military, so wouldn't the enemy be targeting ours? So with that string of logic, if there isn't sufficient guarding for the supply lines, are we putting the "behind the lines people" at greater risk?

    And yes, if they want equality, then women are in the draft.
    Clear and Simple.

    Oh, and if a women/girl finds a term derogitory(sp?), then inform the party that issued the term, and get over it.
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    Did you guys hear about those people who flew to Iraq to protest the war by acting as human shields, but then when Iraq told them that they would be assigned to a location to be human shields, they came back and started telling people all about how mean Iraq was to them...

    And then apparently Winnie Mandela (I don't have a problem with Nelson Mandela - he was awesome, but his ex-wife was... well... read on) wanted to go to Iraq to do the same thing. As I understand it, the goal of a human shield is to REDUCE the likelihood of that place being targeted. If she was in my sights, well... good bye Iraq.

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    ...I know a lot of men who have no business being in the military....on the other hand I know some women, not many, but a few who should be....

    ...just because women give life does not mean that we are not equipped to protect it and take it away if we need to...

    ...again the military is not for everyone....regardless of sex....
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    I think that men and women should be enlisted. Since they decided that they get to vote, and be treated equally, then they should also be forced into war if enlistment is ever required. If emotional stability of females is what everyone worries about... drugs can fix that.

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    >>If emotional stability of females is what everyone worries about

    then how come that doesnt effect them from voting?
    guns dont kill people, abortion clinics kill people.

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    Originally posted by dP munky
    >>If emotional stability of females is what everyone worries about

    then how come that doesnt effect them from voting?
    Your right! OMG! We're on to something here! We can prove that if women cannot be enlisted, then they cannot vote! Excellent! I think this calls for new poll with evidence supporting our claims.

    (and until the issue can be otherwise proven, then womens voting privileges should be removed for international security purposes)

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    Like said VERY early on, it is the physical differences that count.

    Yes-and I know this to be true-women ARE smart and make good decisions under duress.

    But what if a woman came up 'hand to hand' against a burly bloke soldier-it would be messy.

    This is the 'age old' problem
    Such is life.

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    Originally posted by Fountain
    ....But what if a woman came up 'hand to hand' against a burly bloke soldier-it would be messy.....
    ...it totally depends on her training...if she was well trained in the martial arts (which unfortunately they do not learn much of in the US military...) she would be able to take him...don't you think??...but of course teaching Martial Arts would be "un-American" maybe??...I wonder...why don't they teach our girls some combat techniques which do not rely on muscle/physical power...

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    And then what? They would not teach the men the same techniques? And the enemy would promise their men are not 'Bruce Lee'?

    Does not work. Soldiers are taught self defence (obviously) which involves (some) martial arts techniques.

    For your argument to work, all the women would need to be 3rd Dans-just not plausible.
    Such is life.

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    ...how about the men in the military who are not that strong...no one says anything about them...not all men in the military are big and burly....there is a place for them in the military...why?

    ...I do not believe that we are equal...men are stronger in some ways and women are stronger in others...why not take advantage of these strengths...instead of getting hung up on issues...
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