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    The second amendment says that, being necessary for a well-regulated militia, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. It's unclear whether this allows non-militia weapons or not.

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    if you are a criminal, rapist, robber, etc., if you knew that when you assaulted, robbed, etc., that there was a good chance that someone would have a gun/other weapon and use it to stop you, would you be more inclined or less inclined to perform those illegal acts.

    Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns.
    Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.
    An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
    A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
    We don't need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, but we should ban and seize all guns, thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments to that Constitution.
    Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.


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    Originally posted by windoze victim
    Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, and Chicago cops need guns.
    Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.
    An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
    A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
    We don't need guns against an oppressive government, because the Constitution has internal safeguards, but we should ban and seize all guns, thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments to that Constitution.
    Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.
    Amen. Gun control worked great for Hitler...just think what would have happened if all those Jews had guns...Gun control works great in Australia, where criminals now enter homes while the owners are there. Gun control works great in the UK, where there are cameras watching everyone at all times, and they still have a high crime rate. Gun control works great in Canada, where it has cost far more than estimated and compliance is under 50%, and the crime rate still went up.

    From http://www.independent.org/tii/conte...riefTEMBA.html
    In the 4th century B.C., for example, Greek philosophers Plato and Aristotle, despite their profound differences, shared the belief that an armed populace was essential for preventing the imposition of tyranny. A few centuries later, Roman lawyer Cicero warned that replacing the private ownership of weapons with standing armies was contributing to the fall of the Roman Empire. In Renaissance Italy, Niccolo Machiavelli (14691527) argued that an armed public promotes civic virtue, which in turn promotes responsible arms use. In 16th century France, political philosopher Jean Bodin (15301596) argued that disarming the citizenry helped create an absolute monarchy. Across the English Channel, philosophers Thomas Hobbes (15881679) and John Locke (16321704) also shared the view that an armed populace deters tyranny.
    It's too bad that Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Machiavelli, Bodin, Hobbes, Locke, and the authors of our Bill of Rights were all so wrong...
    Away.

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    "Amen. Gun control worked great for Hitler...just think what would have happened if all those Jews had guns"

    You're an idiot.

    "...Gun control works great in Australia, where criminals now enter homes while the owners are there."

    You're an idiot.

    "Gun control works great in the UK, where there are cameras watching everyone at all times, and they still have a high crime rate."

    You're an idiot.

    "Gun control works great in Canada, where it has cost far more than estimated and compliance is under 50%, and the crime rate still went up."

    Oh and..... you're an idiot.

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    Clyde your stealing my tactics, and then using them wrong.
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    "Clyde your stealing my tactics, and then using them wrong"

    What?

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    "Clyde your stealing my tactics, and then using them wrong"

    What?
    Yeah, I noticed that, too... it should be:
    "Clyde, you're stealing my tactics, and you're using them wrongly."

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    Originally posted by Clyde
    "Amen. Gun control worked great for Hitler...just think what would have happened if all those Jews had guns"

    You're an idiot.

    "...Gun control works great in Australia, where criminals now enter homes while the owners are there."

    You're an idiot.

    "Gun control works great in the UK, where there are cameras watching everyone at all times, and they still have a high crime rate."

    You're an idiot.

    "Gun control works great in Canada, where it has cost far more than estimated and compliance is under 50%, and the crime rate still went up."

    Oh and..... you're an idiot.
    Quoted for posterity. I wanted to do this, but you beat me to it.

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    Sometimes, guys, the truth hurts. In this case, it's the disarmed populaces being hurt.
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    You're right. The holocaust probably never would have happened if the Jews had had guns. Another victory for logic!


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    >> it's the disarmed populaces being hurt.<<

    Do you mean countries that don't allow their citizens to own guns? If so then you are wrong, simple as that. I have grown up in a country where all but a few guns are illegal (farmers can have shotguns, that's about it) and it has certainly done me no harm. I don't wish to own a gun and don't actually feel the need to. You said earlier that we have high rates of crime (I'm British). Well in some parts of the country this is true, but only a very small amount of it involves firearms. My brother has been a policeman here for some 12 years and even he (being on the front line of the fight against crime) doesn't wish to be armed.

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    Originally posted by Govtcheez
    You're right. The holocaust probably never would have happened if the Jews had had guns. Another victory for logic!

    Believe what you may, one of the first steps, if you studied history closely, of Hitler's rise to power, was the disarmament of the population.
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    Originally posted by blackrat364
    Believe what you may, one of the first steps, if you studied history closely, of Hitler's rise to power, was the disarmament of the population.
    Yeah, you're probably right. The fact that the Jews didn't have guns probably was the major cause of the Holocaust. I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with "peace in our time" and letting Hitler just take a little bit of land and hoping he's happy. It probably didn't have anything to do w/ America's isolationist attitude after WWI, either. I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with the fact that Hitler had a huge army; that'd be just silly. It's probably just because Joe Jew didn't have a rifle. Thanks for clearing that up, and I'll try to read up on more history.

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    "Believe what you may, one of the first steps, if you studied history closely, of Hitler's rise to power, was the disarmament of the population"

    Did i mention..... You're an idiot.

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