US attack in Iraq (WAR Talk)

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    Originally posted by RoD
    I think america as a whole is not worried about russia or china, i'm not.
    Being some of the most powerful countries, I believe that Russia, China, and the United States are smart enough to solve their problems peacefully. I don't think that either of the countries wants issues similar to those that the Cold War led to.

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    Being some of the most powerful countries, I believe that Russia, China, and the United States are smart enough to solve their problems peacefully. I don't think that either of the countries wants issues similar to those that the Cold War led to.
    Could be. But in those days Russia and the United States were also the most powerful countries.

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    I agree that Russia and the US would solve their issues peacefully.

    I can say that I doubt highly that Russia would want to enter a conventional war against us. My platoon served with a Russian platoon patrolling the same areas in Bosnia back in 96. Their soldiers hadn't been paid in over 6 months. They lacked the funding to properly clean and maintain their weapons and other equipment. Their rations were not much more than what you'd consider moist dog food. And needless to say their morale was VERY low. Their military is no where near what it was during the Cold War.

    If Saddam was taken out already then I think the majority of the Iraqi troops would surrender. This would be the best we could hope for at this point, as it would mean less bloodshed (especially of innocents).

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    Russia is just making sure it makes some noise as it loses more influence over areas it used to control and have a say over... Their criticizm mimicks the western criticizm over russia's involvement in CHECHNYA. So this is just russia clearing it's throat saying that it is still around but in reality they can do nothing about it and they have no plans to do anything about it.

    In fact in months back BUSH courted PUTIN to become part of the coalition but russia understandibly didn't want to be involved militarily but I suspect that it is more that they couldn't if they wanted - if russians fought along side the US a commander predicted that the russians would overwhelm the iraqi's with russian POW's giving up to iraqi forces - just like Gulf War I but reversed. Conventionally, the russians are not much of a threat to the US and not even IRAQ.
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    I've heard rumors about the Iraqi troups firing 5 SCUD missles at one of our bases (all of which missed I guess, and had no chem/bio hazmat) and that they fired two missles at the US but they fell over 100 miles short. I am still in high school and not sure what to make out of all this. The only thing I know from the media that is true is that we are at war. (are we?). I feel that the US has a better reason for attacking Iraq than just oil. Clinton hardly meddled with saddam (from what I can remember) and I'm sure we wouldn't have as many protestors if we had a valid reason for attacking at this time. I wish the protestors would stop already. We're at war at the moment and if terrorists decide to attack the US grounds, alot of police have to spend their time making sure that the protestors don't get out of hand or what-not.
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    I still don't understand why the war is necessary. If they wanted Saddam dead, all they needed to do was get some snipers over there and take out everyone that looks like Saddam. Then America can blame it on terrorists like they always do Am I missing something here?
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    maybe missing the fact that saddam is firing weapons at Kuwait etc that were supposed to have been destroyed.
    Such is life.

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    >>> Am I missing something here?

    Yes. Killing SH would be a big political victory, but look at it more generally. He has a family and support structure. He and his cronies must be seen to be removed, and no longer a force, to allow the rank and file people of Iraq to actually say what they think without the fear in the back of their minds that one of his henchmen is watching.

    It is great to see the young people of the free world protesting against the war, but it would also be great to think that young people everywhere had the same freedom.
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    do they have some new government ready to go for when suddam is dead?
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    >>> about 4 billion Chinese couldn't care less.

    The population of China is a little over 1.28 billion.
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    # still don't understand why the war is necessary. If they wanted Saddam dead, all they needed to do was get some snipers over there and take out everyone that looks like Saddam. Then America can blame it on terrorists like they always do Am I missing something here? #




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    Originally posted by minesweeper
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    Wow that is sad, the guy was probably completely innocent, I used to drive a taxi so I guess I can relate. That is the thing about war though, innocents will die.

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    A post of the long variety.

    I'd like to share some things that I've learned about Iraq and such lately.

    One comes from a suprisingly good op-ed piece from my local paper. It stated the three most likely outcomes of the war w/Iraq.
    [list=1][*]Hussein has WOMD and uses them against us.
    No good will come out of this scenario. Many more Americans will die, and consequently, we will obliterate the Iraqi people with even less mercy.
    Winners: no one.
    Losers: all of the dead people.[*]Hussein does not have WOMD as we claimed.
    This is the scenario I'd like to see because I despise Bush. This will make America look like nothing more than a big oil-hungry bully to the international community.
    Winners: the UN, France, Germany, China, Russia, etc. who opposed the war; doves back in the states; and Hussein who dead or alive will come off looking like a martyr.
    Losers: the Republic party, especially the Bush administration; and hawks everywhere. Oh, and don't forget the dead people.[*]Hussein has WOMD but does not use them against us.
    This is the only scenario in which the U.S. comes out on top. This is what Bush et. al. envision. Given the only other possible outcomes, you'd better wish he's right.
    Winners: the U.S., Republicans, and Bush
    Losers: doves, UN, and any dead people.[/list=1]


    I've recently learned quite a bit about the Kurds. You probably haven't heard about them because (a) you don't care and (b) they don't have their own country. As a matter of fact, the Kurds are the largest ethnic group in the world without their own country. Their scattered about in Turkey, Iran, and Iraq. They are horribly mistreated in Turkey. They control a portion of nothern Iraq where for the last few years, they have been running their own democratic government. Now, since we're going to have to set up a democratic government after we turn Iraq into one big parking lot and take control of their oil, I think it would be best to give the Kurdish people their section of Iraq as their own independant state. It could be a haven for mistreated Kurds who have been kicked around since WWII.

    Anyway, I promised myself that I'd try to limit the amount of my opinions I would voice, so I'll leave you with that for know.
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