Iraq vs USA

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    welll, i had a good size response but the DB would not have it so... a shorter version

    no chance in hell,

    he wont leave, hes planning on making this as painful and as bad for us as he can, hes giving his troops toxn shells, his RG british and US uniforms, and I hear bagdad is ringed with VX(you have no idea how terriblie this $$$$ is), so this is gonna get really nasty really fast. hes gonna try and make it look as if the U.S. and Britain are on a mission of genocide.

    lemme just say a have so much respect for Tony Blair now, hes one of the few who did not sell us out for politics and money, he has so much riding on this,
    I give him my sincerest thanks, and also to those countries that have stuck with us.

    to those hammering vber, give it a sincere thought for a sec, he already mentioned this, but im gonna say it again, if you had to live in israel for a year or two you would probably think a little differently too, remember WTC ok, they deal with this on a 100th the scale up to a little while ago regularly, and the world condems them every time for fighting back, think about seeing your freinds, family, and strangers die, and then get slammed for wanting to stop the ones doing it, i woud be ........ed too.

    ok, maybe not shorter.
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    Don't think I am unaware of what it is like to live in a country suffering the effects of terrorism. We had it for many decades. I just don't see how that could lead someone to find the deaths of Iraqi civillians funny.

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    minesweeper, we're talking about extremists of Islam, like Saddam and their soldiers, these guys should be killed, if they were in the same position as USA, don't doubt it, they would make the same step, even more blunder.

    Like I told in this thread if we are talking about innocents people, of course it's not what I want.

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    "SADDAM'S SOLDIERS SURRENDER
    Mar 9 2003

    Mike Hamilton reports from Camp Coyote in Kuwait

    TERRIFIED Iraqi soldiers have crossed the Kuwait border and tried to surrender to British forces - because they thought the war had already started.

    The motley band of a dozen troops waved the white flag as British paratroopers tested their weapons during a routine exercise.

    The stunned Paras from 16 Air Assault Brigade were forced to tell the Iraqis they were not firing at them, and ordered them back to their home country telling them it was too early to surrender."

    These are the accounts coming from the "fearsome iraqi soldiers"...

    This will be a quick decisive action, nuff said - and the rest of you saying - "someone to find the deaths of Iraqi civillians funny" - you never said anything when saddam was mass murdering his civilians for the last 12years so your whiny comments fall on def earz...

    it's the US who really carez about the iraqi civilians - and not the foolz in the streets of europe trying to keep saddam in power.
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    majority of earthlings think sychdumb hussein is the prime
    example of evil on earth.


    creatures like sychodum hussein make incompetent
    presidents like mr bush, look good.

    Well well. Big daddy usa is gone kick its former
    step child(saddam) in the butt. now what i cant figure out
    is the position of the stupid iranian government
    (call them mullahs)
    who dont represent even %1 of the iranian ppl
    and iranian cultures and are against the war but dont offer
    any other solutions.
    as the only non ARAB & non SEMITE
    country in the middle east iran(the name means"land
    of the aryans. its desendents came from south russia 3000
    years ago and established the persian empire) was
    attacked by sychodum hussein and lost 1 million of its
    young boys in that war (50000 by chemical bombs).
    plus 100000 survivors crippled by these gas attacks.

    at the time(right after iranian revolution). because
    of a few minorities(mullahs and their followers)
    and their stupid idiocy , iran wasnt popular.
    and while iran was under total sanctions by west
    (us hostage crisis).
    hussein at the time was supported fully, with weapons
    and money by following countries.

    22 arab countries including kuwate(not syria)140 billion dollars

    germany chemical ingredients for bombs&financing

    france 120 mirage jets & 25 billion loan

    russia 2000 tanks 300 scuds 400 planes&advisors

    china 500 tanks 200 scud(B)

    and believe it or not;

    USA with full satelite support and AWACS support
    and by directly entering the war and attacking iran,s navy

    advisors(donald rumsfeld at the time was an advisor to
    iraqi army) . these help was so crucial that by their own confessions any movement of iranian army was reported
    to iraq through washington on minutes notice.

    Hypocrytes.

    Now mr america wants human rights for iraq. i dont know
    about that and i dont care as to why.
    but i know one thing and that is that at this junction
    sadly or coincidently the interest of the poor average
    desolute , helpless iraqi citizen(4/5 of the population)
    is shared by no other than mr Big W.

    if i was an iraqi i wanted hussein go by any means.

    all the peace loving folks against this naked agression
    by the us , and i call it that , should remember that
    sadam is given the choice to leave iraqi ppl alone but
    because of his selfishness and madness poor iraqis
    will suffer the brunt of the war. and then they will be:


    Free




    Edit;
    UN should have done this not US.

    after the war UN must put in place a law of democracy
    for all unellected rulers as such:

    "if you enslave your nation UN forces will come to your palace
    and cut your head and every member of your family"

    SO BE NICE. period
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    Originally posted by minesweeper
    >>If we're talking about iraq's people yes, same to palestines.<<

    I don't think there is a word in the english language that comes close to describing the sort of person who could make a statement like that. I can only hope that you are young and will one day grow up.
    How would you describe the Palestinians dacing in the street on 9-11-2001 then?

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    war ? ha .. i hate it !

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    Originally posted by Vber
    And don't get me wrong guys, I'm not an extremist or something from the same type.
    Originally posted by Vber
    we don't want to kill innocents, we want to kill the perverts like, Nassrala (Tanzim), Ahmad Yasin (Hamas) and yasser arafat.

    Originally posted by zahid
    I wander to see your bravery and hope. You uncovered your identification. I am sorry to hear it from you. You know? This is why you people will rarely enjoy the peace. But yeah, life will go on.

    We are lucky, hope will never happen in our life.
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    >Anyone think Iraq can possibly win the war?

    I don't think so. Let's hope Bagdad will not be a second Stalingrad and that the war will be over as soon as possible with as less victims as possible
    Iraq cannot win. There is no time limit to this war and the US lead coalition has air supremacy. In Stalingrad, more Germans were killed than Allied soldiers are participating in this war, mostly because an incompetent leader revoked his generals' orders of maneuver warfare and ordered them to dug in and hold at all costs. And they did so, at a very high cost. So if Bush is smart and lets his military experts make decisions concerning warfare, it will be relativly swift. Thinking that a war will cause a minimum of casualties is naive. People will die. People will get maimed, blinded, wounded, hurt. Soldiers. Civilians. Men, Women, Children. Bombs don't see a difference in combatants or noncombatants.
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    >> if you had to live in israel for a year or two you would probably think a little differently too<<


    I'd rather live in Israel than Palestine. Just my opinion based on these fugures.

    Israel
    0% pop in poverty
    <5% illiterate
    6/1000 infant mortality
    GDP = 110 $US billions (2000)
    GDP growth 6%

    Palestein
    23% under poverty line
    14% illiterate
    24/1000 infant mortality
    GDP = 4.6 $US billions (2000)
    GDP growth negative 16% ie getting poorer

    source www.worldbank.org

    in Jan 2003 Israelies in terrorist attacks
    30 killed
    127 injured
    (Since 1949 :: only in 1978, 1994, 1996, 2001, 2002 (and already) 2003 did the number of Israelies killed in terrorist attacks rise above 50 per year)

    in Jan 2003 Palestineans in terrorist attacks
    73 killed
    1068 injured
    1063 arrested

    "The Palestinian Ministry of Health announced in the 2nd anniversary of the Intifadha (9/28/02) that the total number of Palestinian killed by Israelis or died as a result of Israeli occupation practices were 2,520."

    "The Israeli Foreign Ministry announced that the number of Israelis killed since 9/26/2000 were 624."




    >> it's the US who really carez about the iraqi civilians - and not the foolz in the streets of europe trying to keep saddam in power.<<

    Some of us question why now.

    Why after twelve years after the Gulf War is it imperitive to go in today and not let the UNSC weapon inspectors, who found most of the WMD last war, not continue.
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    Re: Iraq vs USA

    Originally posted by Liger86
    Anyone think Iraq can possibly win the war? I think it's very possible.

    My friend told me that president of Egypt (this is a rumor(or so I think)) is calling upon one billion people to fight for Iraq...

    Sounds dumb to me, but we'll see.

    You think Iraq has a chance?
    only God knows the answer, and I wish no battle will happen.

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    I don't think Iraq can win.

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    Wouldn't it be nice if all threads like this were simple...

    >>> Anyone think Iraq can possibly win the war?

    ... simple troll ...

    >>> I don't think Iraq can win.

    ... simple answer... but no, they just amble along getting hot and tedious, spawning others along the way.
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    Hmm Zahid, didn't you know that Tanzim are from Yasser Arafat? These guys were supposed to protect Yasser, these group is manipulated by Yasser, all the money they receive is from Yasser, but what exactly this group do? They do competition against hamas to see who kill more people faster, and not soldiers, they are afraid from soldiers, they go and kill civilians.

    They want war, so why they can't fight against IDF?

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    edit::

    >I'd rather live in Israel than Palestine. Just my opinion based on these fugures.

    there's more to life than figures you nerd.

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    concerning your number quotes, i hardly believe that 0% of israel is in poverty... that sounds pretty unbelievable, whats the defined poverty level? is it the same for both sides?

    second if nations like palistine got some decent leadership and would stop wasting their money and time balming israel for their problems and equiping radicals they might get a decent economy, i dont think Yasser is that bad off.

    >
    in Jan 2003 Palestineans in terrorist attacks
    73 killed
    1068 injured
    1063 arrested
    <

    ... whose terrorist attacks? israels? whatever.

    >
    "The Palestinian Ministry of Health announced in the 2nd anniversary of the Intifadha (9/28/02) that the total number of Palestinian killed by Israelis or died as a result of Israeli occupation practices were 2,520."
    <

    hmm, how many of those people had guns? or were trying to kill israelis?

    >Some of us question why now.

    hmm, could it have something to do with the new administration? maybe 9-11? you think? jeez thats a toughie to figure out.
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    im not saying israels an angel in this conflict, far from it, but they are no where near the level the Palestinians have sunk to, i blame poor leadership.

    this conflict has no easy end either, neither sides leadership wants a Palestinian and an Israeli state... but israel has been way more willing to put aside its differences and give the palistinians an amazing comprimize, but the Palestinian leadership, ie Yasser refused to bring and end to it, now only with the fear of U.S. force does he really call off his terrorist minions.

    Iraq will not even do this much.


    Theres nothing to argue here so don't bother.
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