Thread: Replacing C++ with Java?!?!?!?

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    Replacing C++ with Java?!?!?!?

    this one school I heard of is going to start giving Java instead of C++. A note taken from some documentation I got from the student that told me about this piece of news:
    "Projects will be written in C++ until May, 2004, when the APCS examinations will be given in Java"

    the school website:
    http://www.mcps.k12.md.us/index.cfm

    I don't know...

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    Dont doubt it, next year the AP exam officially changes to Java.

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    and what is the APCS exam?
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    Yup, I'm doing AP Computer Science (APCS) at my school right now, and it's the last year before the change to Java.

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    woah, freakish.
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    At my school, our grade 12 programming course is Java. For our final project in that course I wrote an entire game engine using Java. *shudder*

    Luckily they still have Visual C++ installed on a few machines for our programming team.
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    why the hell would you change to JAVA???

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    Does this mean when i go to college(if) in a few months that the courses will be aiming more at java then c++?? that would suck so bad....

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    Well Java don't suck like this... it's a great tool, and it's a perfect OOP, even more than C++.

    And it's good too, because it's 100% multi-plataform, but this causes it to be slow... ahh the VM.

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    Its not actually that slow. With a JIT, you can reach speeds of up to only 15% slower than native C++. Just for comparison, the bytecoded-JIT'ed .NET languages (C#, etc) are only 10% slower. I've done those tests.

    Java has a lot of features, don't bash it until you have actually programmed in it. For example, in web applications, Java beats C++ however powerful it may be.

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    Originally posted by RoD
    Does this mean when i go to college(if) in a few months that the courses will be aiming more at java then c++?? that would suck so bad....
    Are you kidding me? Dude, they teach Java AND C++ *plus tons of others). It's not like HS where they only offer one type of programming course.

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    I dont know any better :P

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    Cool

    This discussion has came up allready. Yes APCS is going to Java. Yes, Java is making headway in CS programs. But C++, Java and C# will still be your major languages at Univ and most businesses.

    And yes VB and COBOL are still around. VB is still viable and is taught at a lot of business CIS programs.
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    When the Advanced Placement board made that decision, Java's popularity was at its zenith, and talk of the death of C++ was frequent. Universities like Java because of its "purer" OOP implementation and its "platform independence." Unfortunately, Java remains a proprietary programming language and platform controlled by Sun Microsystems, unlike the ISO-standardized languages C and C++.

    Anyway, as long as computer science and programming concepts are taught well, the particular programming language and platform is not really that important.

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