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    "Let me amend this, this applies to the SECURITY COUNCIL which is a joke - there should be no such thing as a security council and in no way should it be part of the UN. The UN is setup to fail in any venture that requires action be taken - the interests of the nations especially those with vetoes renders INCOMPETENT the security council and thusly the UN"

    Ok, so you don't think there should be a security council, so how do you propose international policy be governed?

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    Well, we got along fine for a long time w/o the security council so...
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    "Well, we got along fine for a long time w/o the security council so..."

    Do you think there should be international laws, backed by an international body?

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    >Well, we got along fine for a long time w/o the security council so...

    The security council came after the WWII....

    Because of the globalisation, a lot of things have become global. For example trading, to organise this, international laws are required. These international laws should be backed by an international body.

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    i agree with you Shiro on the human rights etc... aspect of the UN and they do seem to have some success in these areas, however for the same orginisation to have both global humanitarin and military powers makes little sense, i surly wouldn't go to the police station for a broken arm.
    international law as a phylosophy sounds too close to a one world government for me.

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    >>> These international laws should be backed by an international body.

    This is, of course, correct, but what happens when those laws are broken?

    What "should" happen, and what does happen?
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    Wait for few more months to have your answer. We will see it live.

    Actually I'm eager to see US invasion in Iraq without UN authorization. I'm sorry but that will be really interesting.
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    >What "should" happen, and what does happen?

    That is a very difficult question for which I don't have a good answer. In Europe we have the stability pact which says that if a country's economic prestation is not good enough, because of the value of the euro, then it must pay a fine. But yes, what if a country refuses to pay the fine? EU economic sanctions perhaps? Boycots? I don't know if such economic sanctions are good, they will have a bad influence on that country's economy which will certainly not improve that country's economy.

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    If a company's economy is bad, you fine them? Seems rather counter-productive to me...

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    >>Actually I'm eager to see US invasion in Iraq without UN authorization. I'm sorry but that will be really interesting.

    Well, there is already presedence for this... in KOSOVO there was no UN authorization, in Afghanistan there was no UN authorization - they didn't object but they didn't condone either.

    The other places where there has been UN authorization it's been a UN failure such as in SOMALIA and BOSNIA, HAITI... in bosnia it took NATO power and US agreement in Dayton, Ohio to end the conflict.

    The US stopped asking permission or even participating in UN security council sanctioned military action after SOMALIA so the decision to leave the UN out of the loop has been made a long time ago.
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    Without trying to sound like a typical american, its not in my opinion that the UN can stop us. We will do what has to be done. We will invade iraq, and we will prevail, for the good of ourselves, and the others of the planet on which we exist.

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    >If a company's economy is bad, you fine them? Seems rather counter-productive to me.

    Yes, I also don't agree with it. Recently I read a book from a Dutch politician, he also treated this problem with the euro stability pact and he also wondered how a fine could stimulate an economy.

    It has also other strange aspects. France and Italy are two countries which prestations are not according to the stability pact. So to keep the euro stable, for example the Netherlands should point France on that fact and demand that France should cut down on expenses? The Netherlands should demand that unemployment benefits of Italians should be lowered? In my opinion that is not how it should be. It are the governments, which are choosen in a democratic way in a country who are in the position to handle such subjects in a country.

    A EU is in basic a good thing, but it should be developed first as a political union and not as a monetary union as it is developing now. The euro is much too early, in my opinion.

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    euro is the new monistary in europe right? I'm a little fuzzy on the up to date stuff, i dont like too watch the news.

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    In some countries in Europe the euro is the new valuta.
    http://europa.eu.int/euro/html/entry.html

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