A lil controversy: Cloning

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    "I disagree, earth sustains life with life, how is that not alive??"

    "Earth" does NOT "sustain life with life", (if anything you would say that the SUN sustains life with radiation, does that make the sun alive too?) The "Earth" doesn't "do" anything the laws of physics "do" everything. The Earth is just another planet like Mars, Venus etc. etc.

    "the earth has everything to do w/life"

    Ok...

    "if the earth was just a rock and couldnt sustain life"

    Right, but if it were a bunch of rocks with a whole load of chemical and physical processes going on (which it is) it would.

    "the things that the earth has done over eons of time has helped every living thing on the planet"

    The "Earth" has not "done" anything, the laws of PHYSICS and CHEMISTRY have shaped the Earth, and as such have created an environment where it was possible for life to form.

    "now does the earth have conciousness...?"

    No.

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    >>if anything you would say that the SUN sustains life with radiation, does that make the sun alive too?

    then define life? what makes something living?

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    energy = life...

    earth = energy...

    earth = life.

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    There are several facts that the earth is alive

    1. Birth.
    2. Death
    3. Attracts better than most men.
    4. It's center is warm but it's outside is cold.
    5. Blood flows through it.
    6. Some spots have acne.

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    IMVHO, life is the ability for a combination of substances to control chemical reactions for the benefit of itself.

    Although probably not what you would see in a text book, it fits my needs well.

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    "then define life? what makes something living?"

    There are a great many defintions of life floating around, the one i like best is:

    Life is a chemical system capable of replication and mutation.

    Ultimately the word "life" is a description of a set of physical phenomena, how we choose to define it is somewhat irrelevent as long as there is general acceptance on what the term means in real terms:

    Most people accept that a bird flying above the treetops is alive whilst a rock is not.

    Kangaroos exist ON the Earth but the Earth itself is not alive, fish exist IN the sea, but the sea itself is not alive, life exists in the solar system but the solar system is not alive.

    If you start defining the Earth as living, then you end up defining EVERYTHING as alive and the word loses all meaning.

    "energy = life"

    Uh.. no. Energy = The potential to do work.

    "earth = energy"

    Uh ok, but then, the Sun = energy, a photon = energy, a molecule of oxygen = energy, everything in fact = energy.
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