What is out there?

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    im pretty confident there is other intelligent life out there......
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    If any alien race do get here and want to wipe us out they will have no problem, since they will just be able to drop\launch asteroids on us from far, far away and we'll be able to do very little about it, contrary to Battlefield Earth and Inepencance Day I can't see it being viable to strip mine our Planet, for useful materials, I'd just kill us all so we couldn't expand off our own planet and squander the resources of other planets, that's what I'd do anyway, so says Rob, Ravager of Worlds, Conqueror of Space...

    In terms of is something out there, infinite possibilites in infinite combinations, or however it goes. They're probably as planet bound as we are though...
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    Cool Incredibly interesting thread...

    Indeed.

    I don't think this is taking the Bible too literally...

    I think the Christian problem with extraterresials is the whole Jesus-saving-everyone-through-death thing. It would seem to require Jesus being incarnated on each planet individually, and then dying to save each planet individually. Total nonsense.
    Since, if i remember correctly, Jesus as a man did exist -we know from some roman texts-, what we can't prove is if he really did all those miracles and if he really did resurrect after n days, which is the basis of Christianity.

    Generally, the believe in a Superior Being is mainly to explain the unexplainable, atleast that's how i see it. And that is what every believer i have ever spoken to has proven, since they always come back to the same statement: "If God didn't create you -or the universe-, where did you -it- come from?".

    Now to me that's just not a good enough argument to believe in anything. Just because i can't explain something doesn't mean i must make up a story with absolutely no empirical basis to explain it for me, and then put all my faith upon it.

    Where did the universe come from? I don't know, but that certainly doesn't mean God created it.

    As for other living beings, be them intelligent or not, i think that it is possible, maybe even probable but not necessarily true. Because we, and the Earth, might just be a freak occurence; but then again we might not.

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    The number of communicative civilisations in our galaxy, N is given by the Drake equation...

    N = R* fp ne fl fi fc L

    http://www.seti-inst.edu/science/drake-bg.html

    You can help look for alien civilisations here...

    http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
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    I saw a UFO once.
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    > Do most Christians believe that Jesus did not die to "save" humanity? (If not, why do they call themselves Christians; as isn't that what Christ means?)

    I, as a Christian, believe that Jesus did die to save humanity. Jesus is the Christ and Messiah.

    > I saw a UFO once.
    Really???

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    Cool ...

    ...and i respect that, but i don't share it.

    I also believe that wether it is true or not, it should have no bearing on the possibility of life outside of Earth, because nowhere in the Bible is it written otherwise.

    It is widely recognized that the Genesis is simply an elaborate metaphore, certainly not to be taken literally. Therefore, God, if he did/does exist, could only have caused -for instance- the "Bing Bang" and then let things run their course, instead of actually giving the "breath of life" to a pile of dust.

    It is my opinion that, looking at things from a truly christian point of view, this is perfectly plausible.

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    >> I saw a UFO once.
    >Really???

    Yep. August, 1996; The Saturday before I started
    9th Grade. It was about 10:00pm and I was laying
    out in the middle of the street, looking up at
    the stars. I saw a round, brownish, disk-type-
    thing flying high up in the air. It was moving
    in a straight line, but appeared to be wobbling.
    You know, like when you throw a frisbee not-so-
    perfect?

    Anyway, there was a little light-dot following it.
    It looked liked a star, but it obviously wasn't.
    I don't now what the light-dot was. A satellite
    (sp)? Wierd...

    Oh, John Lennon saw a UFO once, too.
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    >>>
    about 10:00pm and I was laying out in the middle of the street,
    <<<

    If you want to live long and prosper, may I suggest an alternate venue for this activity.
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    >I saw a UFO once.
    That explains alot
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    I think there is life on other planets, but I think we are searching for the wrong reasons. We are screwing up our atmosphere and think that if we found some aliens, they will clean it up for us or give us new vaccines. I think we shouldn't waste time trying to contact them until as a planet we accept eachother's diversity and beleifs. Whats the point of making contact with a new lifeform if we can't even get along?

    We are reaching a critical point in our evolution and I feel that if we want to succeed, we as a planet should share our technological and biological information and work to save our planet and develop new technologies that will help in our exploration of the universe.
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    if we found aliens that could get to us likely they wouldn't want to since either:

    1)It would be technologically possible but not really worth the effort, by which i mean we could maybe use ion drives to get to a neighbouring solar systems but the resources required could not be justified.

    2)If they could get here without to much effort they wouldn't want to because they would be so far advanced of us we would look like an anthill compared to a capital city.

    I also think its unlikely that they would want to kill us for similar reasons. After all earth is relatively small and we already have used many of its resources hence to a low tech (100/200 yrs beyond our level) society the cost of wiping us out is more than its worth to them. A high tech society of course could, but likely wouldn't want to becuase we could never pose a threat. On top of that you likely wouldn't get a high tech society that was too hell bent on war since they would likely burn themselves out before their science reached a high level. Personally i like to think there is a whole whitehall farce going on at our doorsteps (well, across the milky way at least) between various advanced civilisations and we are just totally blind to it. Thats just me though.

    And yes, i doubt anyone would want to clean up our atmosphere for us too.
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    Originally posted by adrianxw
    >>>
    about 10:00pm and I was laying out in the middle of the street,
    <<<

    If you want to live long and prosper, may I suggest an alternate venue for this activity.
    It's a quiet street. And cars are usually
    nice enough to drive around me... *Usually*
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    may i suggets a good surgeon?

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    I think it's very likely that something's out there, but I also think it's most likely we will never get to meet with them, think about it, how long did it take us to develop?, if there is something out there, it's very probable that they have the same technology as us (well, or an equivalent)

    Our universe is a young one.

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