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Should I join the air force or the navy

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    You must meet VERY strict requirements to become a pilot. I wouldn't join the Airforce expecting to be a pilot.

    "Should I join the Air Force or the Navy?"

    Hmmm, should I shoot myself in the left foot or the right foot?

    How quickly do I want to die?

    Do I get airsick or seasick?
    Uuhhh yeah.
    You're not going to die just by joining the Military. Most people who join the Air Force never go up in a plane, and many in the Navy don't sail on ships.

    So what the hell are you talking about?

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    Join the Sea Org and audit your way to a better life and empty pockets.

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    Originally posted by Eibro
    Uuhhh yeah.
    You're not going to die just by joining the Military. Most people who join the Air Force never go up in a plane, and many in the Navy don't sail on ships.

    So what the hell are you talking about?
    >>Do I get airsick or seasick?
    I think that one is pretty obvious.

    >>How quickly do I want to die?
    To my knowledge, the Air Force is America's first line of defense whereas the Navy is America's second; thus, it stands to reason that the Air Force can get you killed quicker than the Navy.

    >>Do I want to shoot myself in the left foot or the right foot?
    Why on earth would anyone want to be in the military? I really don't understand that. Don't you realize you can get killed?! Especially given our current administration and global situation.

    If you become a programmer as a civilian, no one is going to kill you. You can live a nice, happy, calm, peaceful life coding away in safety. On the other hand, if you choose to become a programmer for the armed forces, you must first go through boot camp, a euphemism for hell.

    After that, there is no guarantee that you'll be a programmer. Anyone in the armed forces is subject to assignment, so if they decide you're better used as a foot soldier, that's what you're gonna be. Even if you are used as a programmer, you still can't decide what sort of programs you'll get to work on. You'll have no freedom to do what makes you happy.

    And then, on top of all of that, there is always the chance that you will be killed in any number of unpleasant manners. Where on earth is the upside to enlisting?
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    >>How quickly do I want to die?
    To my knowledge, the Air Force is America's first line of defense whereas the Navy is America's second; thus, it stands to reason that the Air Force can get you killed quicker than the Navy.
    So? Unless you're in the elite 0.0000001% of people who actually become fulltime pilots, you'll be sitting pretty in an administrative job or something.

    >>Do I want to shoot myself in the left foot or the right foot?
    Why on earth would anyone want to be in the military? I really don't understand that. Don't you realize you can get killed?! Especially given our current administration and global situation.
    Why on earth would anyone want to drive a car? Don't they realize they could get killed?! Jesus, the military isn't all about hand to hand combat, dogfights... massive battles on the open sea. You've been watching too many movies.

    If you become a programmer as a civilian, no one is going to kill you. You can live a nice, happy, calm, peaceful life coding away in safety. On the other hand, if you choose to become a programmer for the armed forces, you must first go through boot camp, a euphemism for hell.
    Hahaha sure they will. Plus, if there's a war you get sucked up into a draft anyway.

    No, bootcamp isn't a "euphemism for hell" like you see depicted in movies and on TV.

    After that, there is no guarantee that you'll be a programmer. Anyone in the armed forces is subject to assignment, so if they decide you're better used as a foot soldier, that's what you're gonna be.
    No, that's not how it works. Not here anyway.

    Even if you are used as a programmer, you still can't decide what sort of programs you'll get to work on. You'll have no freedom to do what makes you happy.
    Yes you will! You'll have as much freedom had you got a job as a civillian.

    And then, on top of all of that, there is always the chance that you will be killed in any number of unpleasant manners. Where on earth is the upside to enlisting?
    There's more of a chance of dying in a car accident than there is being KIA in todays world.
    Upside to enlisting? There's WAY to many things to list.

    Please, get a clue.

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    I would choose the Air Force as you will see more places - if you join the Navy u will most likely be stationed at a dock or port loading ships.

    The military has good programs for college - it's probably a better deal in the Navy since they need recruits more than other services but it's like 25% is all u pay for college - the military picks up the rest of the tab.
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    Whats wrong with the Army?? Thats where I plan on going. (Im in Australia, btw)

    Being in a plane:
    RISK - Being shot down. Pilot error. Running out of fuel.
    ADVANTAGE - In the air. Moving fast.

    Being on a ship:
    RISK - Being sunk.
    ADVANTAGE - Can attack remote targets with artillery.

    Being on the ground:
    RISK - Being bombed by air.
    ADVANTAGE - Can have large forces. Easier to go undetected (no radar, etc)

    This is just the way I see it. I chose army.

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    thanks for the help.

    My decision on which to join wouldn't be based on this thread, but after posting this question on a couple message boards, it seems as if the majority is telling me to join the air force.

    Anyways, I'm not concerned, I just want to benefit from the experience and the education.

    I also learned that you can get an associates degree from the air force community college, but they also allow you to take courses at local colleges (depending where you're stationed) to complete your bachelors (if anyone's interested).

    thanks,
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    i'm reminded of that simpsons episode with the party possee and the join the navy video lmao....

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    You'll get to see a lot more of the world being in the navy than the air force.

    To face:
    I say again... if you join the airforce, you (in all reality) WON'T become a pilot. Not everyone in the airforce gets their own personal jet.

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    Originally posted by Eibro
    You'll get to see a lot more of the world being in the navy than the air force.

    To face:
    I say again... if you join the airforce, you (in all reality) WON'T become a pilot. Not everyone in the airforce gets their own personal jet.
    I'm not an aspiring pilot though, I'm an aspiring programmer

    Anyways, I'm already in training courses for c++/visual c++.net, but I'm not getting college credit for it- I'm just doing it because I enjoy programming. We get to build large real world projects, and what you learn in the class is >= what you learn in college because you're actually programming. By the time I join the air force, I'll just have to take some classes to keep up with my skills, and hopefully get the degree I want

    Although I want to go to the air force so I can get the government to pay for my education (and to become a better person- of course ), and the c++ classes I'm taking now cost a lot, and I'm not from a rich family.

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    Now's not the time to join the armed services, in my opinion. If you're assigned to a combat situation in Iraq or North Korea, death is certainly a possibility--that's the whole reason behind the military.

    I don't know about the Army, Marines, or Air Force; but the Navy has some odd traditions, at least the submarine crews do.

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    If I were you, I would join the AirForce...
    I love the AirForce and hate the Navy...
    I think you should choose what looks better to you( you like more )...
    none...

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    Originally posted by ammar
    If I were you, I would join the AirForce...
    I love the AirForce and hate the Navy...
    I think you should choose what looks better to you( you like more )...

    Why would anyone hate the Navy? Unless they cant swim or something I cant think of a 'good' reason to 'hate' them.
    Such is life.

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    Originally posted by Unregd
    Now's not the time to join the armed services, in my opinion. If you're assigned to a combat situation in Iraq or North Korea, death is certainly a possibility--that's the whole reason behind the military.

    I don't know about the Army, Marines, or Air Force; but the Navy has some odd traditions, at least the submarine crews do.
    Would you like to explain?

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    howdy,
    i know when i was in the Army in the 70's the Air Force guys had a much better life. they had better living conditions, better facilities, better assignments.
    if you can get in (GPA, Criminal record, Health) the Air Force would be the way to go.

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    No, I know you were joking. My point still stands.

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