First Human clone

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    First Human clone

    so....................................

    who many of ya think it's a fake?

    this is what i'm thinking of...what's gonna happen to the ppl who made it cause human cloning , as far as i know, is against the law in the us...

    this is what creacked me up..the ppl who made the clone claim that human was made by aliens
    the human race never stops amazing me!!
    oh i'm sorry! i didn;t realize my fist was rushing to meet ur face!

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    Hmmm... I officially gave up on everyone in the entire world a long time ago. A lot of people are stupid, and just plain suck.
    Like the retards that want to make human clones. I wish people would just quit trying with this whole cloning thing. It's dumb. As if the world wasn't over populated enough. And I'm expecting some smart as reply to this post by Ride or Die within a few minutes.
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    I have to admit, I agrea. Cloning is illegal...so why do people try to loophole the law? It's sad when people begin losing their integrity, that is if they even had any in the first place...

    I will be very, very interested to see where this all ends up, the future we are involved in is a hard one to repeate.
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    Originally posted by Malcar Morab
    I will be very, very interested to see where this all ends up
    It'll end up with everyone dead and a bunch of freakin' clones going around mindlessly killing each other and struggling to survive in a horrible world covered in an evil green mist that poisons your lungs and causes you to vomit.
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    Originally posted by LordVirusXXP
    It'll end up with everyone dead and a bunch of freakin' clones going around mindlessly killing each other and struggling to survive in a horrible world covered in an evil green mist that poisons your lungs and causes you to vomit.
    sci-fi is starting to get to ya!!
    personally(as some of you already know) i have noting against cloning, but i do have something against those idiots who tell people all these "things" about cloning without knowing what cloning really is.
    there's one thing that i wanna know, if that kid they are saying IS infact a clone, then it is as old as it;s mother(30) so would is die faster because i don;t think scientists have perfected the age reset thing yet. I wouldn;t be surprised if they did perfect ti though, who knows what they do down there!!
    oh i'm sorry! i didn;t realize my fist was rushing to meet ur face!

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    Hmmm... I officially gave up on everyone in the entire world a long time ago. A lot of people are stupid, and just plain suck.
    Like the retards that want to make human clones. I wish people would just quit trying with this whole cloning thing. It's dumb. As if the world wasn't over populated enough.
    Why does Rael want clones? Does he thinks
    that by cloning a human this will some how support
    his alien support group?

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    I think they're just doing it for publicity. The source too is very unreliable, I wouldn't trust anyone who thinks that we're made by aliens... I'm thinking they are probably doing this to divert the attention of the public, maybe it all roots down to Bush, maybe he has some hidden agenda that he doesn't want us to know so they are using this "Hey we've made a human clone" headline a big thing so they can do something secretly, they are so evil!!!... oh well, i guess I'm just being paranoid...

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    Although I don't think we need to worry about a real life version of "Attack of the Clones", there are some real concerns. Especially the "age reset" mentioned already by Commander. After all, there is a tried and true method of reproduction that is cheap, efficient, and a lot more fun.

    What really bothers me is the following:

    1. Cloning of entire human beings is basically pointless. Identical twins (natural clones) often become very different people, so cloning doesn't reliably produce a particular type of person. What then is accomplished by cloning except possibly reducing the diversity of the gene pool? The only reason is to gain notariaty, to me a very questionable motive to bring a child into the world.

    2. This sort of nonsense will interfere with legitimate research. It would be nice if we were able to grow someone a new liver or kidney instead of transplants and immunosuppresion drugs.

    There's my 2 cents.

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    I think it's obvious from what y'all have been posting in this thread that you don't understand the concept of therapeutic cloning. Here's an example. You need an organ transplant. There's a huge waiting list, so you'll likely die before getting the organ you need. Even if you do get the organ you need, it's entirely possible for your body to reject it, as it realizes that it is foreign.

    Cloning might some day solve that problem. If someone needs an organ, it could be cloned. No waiting and more importantly, no rejection, because the organ would be genetically identical to one's self.

    I think that therapeutic cloning holds much hope for the advancement of medical science; however, reproductive cloning seems rather scary given all of the ethical questions it raises. I also think that when many talk about cloning, especially lawmakers, they need to differentiate between therapeutic and reproductive cloning and deal with those two issues seperately.
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    If I could clone my arms, I'd be like Goro, and I'd go around smashing things with my tremendous power! Mwuahahahahaa~!
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    Firstly - LordVirusXXP, stop posting rubbish....you are getting about as popular as a dose of clap on these boards...and frankly noboby gives a damn about what you think.

    As to cloning, I am not too worried about it because there's nothing to be done that can stop it.....I dont see that you can practically expect to stall a branch of scientific evolution because it doesnt sit right with the current moral climate. As soon as possibilities like this come within grasp, then its inevitable that they will be achieved by someone. I imagine that the same was said of "test tube babies" some 30 years ago (or whenever it was)......

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    As to cloning, I am not too worried about it because there's nothing to be done that can stop it.....I dont see that you can practically expect to stall a branch of scientific evolution because it doesnt sit right with the current moral climate. As soon as possibilities like this come within grasp, then its inevitable that they will be achieved by someone. I imagine that the same was said of "test tube babies" some 30 years ago (or whenever it
    was)......
    We can stop it, just like we can stop other fruitless scientific
    persuits such as weapons research.
    Any examination of this case concludes that Rael is a total nutcase. Even 5 years ago my physics teacher talked a little about him. Should we really put human life into these peoples hands? There is no telling if that baby is heathy, age reset problems, random mutations etc.

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    Originally posted by Nick
    We can stop it, just like we can stop other fruitless scientific persuits such as weapons research.
    How can you say that cloning is fruitless? Did you read my post about organ transplants? Ever hear about stem cells? And are you suggesting that the U.S. just give up entirely on weapons research?

    Should we really put human life into these peoples hands? There is no telling if that baby is heathy, age reset problems, random mutations etc.
    That is exactly why this research should be not only allowed by our gov't, but funded by it as well. Then, we could ensure that everything was being done properly. Unfortunately, because people are close minded and quick to judge, cloning has been banned for many and left in the hands of nut cases. If the gov't would fund it, it could control it as much as it wanted. That would be the smart thing for our Congress to do; however, this Congress hasn't felt like doing anything smart lately, so we'll probably have to wait until the Democrats regain control of Washington.
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    That is exactly why this research should be not only allowed by our gov't, but funded by it as well. Then, we could ensure that everything was being done properly.
    I'm a democrat but thinking that the goverment can
    take care of everything properly is naive.

    How can you say that cloning is fruitless? Did you read my post about organ transplants? Ever hear about stem cells? And are you suggesting that the U.S. just give up entirely on weapons
    research?
    I was specifically talking about reproductive cloning. Why should
    we spend billions of dollars on creating a organ clone so that
    we can have companies charge $1000s of dollars to create
    each organ clone? Meanwhile there are people starving, in war, without love.

    U.S. just give up entirely on weapons
    research?
    It is not possible now were're too late.
    We already have enough power
    to destroy the human race.

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    As some one pointed out test tube babies was a taboo .. but now it is accepted.. During the 70's i think people though that using a lightning arrester was bad since it was agains the will of god(as if god wanted to destroy the building) but now it is an essential part of all buildings.. So i ultimately think that the human race will accept this also like it did with the other concepts.. New things are such as these are always shunned.. But who know what other benifits we might derive out of it... Many people feel that man is playing god.... Let him if he has the ability..

    I think in another few thousand years man will be able to create new life forms.. May be we will be introducing life on many distant planets and solar systems.. SO one day we might be God to another life forms...

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