Conspiracy? Or just more nonsense?

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    Conspiracy? Or just more nonsense?

    I don't as a rule give any time for conspiracy theories as I am by nature quite a sceptical person. But I got sent this link today which got me thinking. Part of me doesn't really agree with producing this sort of stuff because people died in the incident and to me it just seems.........well quite sick.

    The two bits that stand out for me are the bit where the boeing is superimposed showing the wingspan and the bit about there being no wreckage on the lawn. See what you think,

    http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero...erreurs_en.htm

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    Wow.

    Certainly seems like they are hiding something. I dont think that you would be able to see no wreckage after the plane collided. The back portion of the plane would still remain. The wings should be left too, since it didnt even cause damage to the second ring.

    There must be information regarding the flight nimber, passengers etc. I dont know how you can hide that type of information.
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    Who said that the boeing that they superimposed was in correct proportions to the building?



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    My cousin saw the airplane hit the god damn building.

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    Originally posted by Shadow12345
    My cousin saw the airplane hit the god damn building.
    maybe they had a flashy thing like in Men in Black... and the whole thing was actually a flying saucer.. and they brainwashed everyone. these things happen.

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    Originally posted by Shadow12345
    My cousin saw the airplane hit the god damn building.
    Does your cousin work for the government? *X-Files music plays in the background*

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    Does your cousin work for the government? *X-Files music plays in the background*
    lol Eibro, hmmmmmm maybe he does!!! Maybe he's a part of the whole conspiracy!! *wink wink*

    no he does not work for the government, he said he was stuck in traffic and he saw the airplane making a low sharp turn and then it nose dived into the ground. He may not have actually even seen it hit the building, only saw it disappear over the horizon and heard what he thought was a crash but was really a truck, so maybe it is a conspiracy after all

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    i remember this topic being brought up a while ago..

    anyways, if there was a nose dive, then how did only the bottom floor got hit?




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    Yes, but that is pretty weird. Either the 'witnesses' were bribed or something, or they took away the wreakage straight away

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    i dont really think its possible to move the wreakage that fast + there were hardly any witnesses unlike the towers
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    what about the people who died?

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    Considering there are thousands of gallons (I dont know how much, just throwing around numbers) of jet fuel on board, on impact the entire plane would be incinerated (havent you seen the footage of the planes hitting the towers, a large fireball engulfed the plane on impact).

    As you can see on some of the photographs, there is a gaping hole in the roof. The plane may have flewn(sp?) through that hole and the explosion may of occured only after the plane hit the ground, which would account for most of the initial damage being on the first floor only. The side of the building remaining relatively intact after a jumbo jet hit it is a testament to the skill of the engineers.
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    if the plane burst into flames and hit the ground before it hit the pentagon, then wouldn't there be a big trench from the nose smashing against the ground?

    and if there WAS an explosion, don't you think it would at least incinerate a decent portion above the plane, not even to mention out the sides?

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    I dont mean the ground as in the ground on the outside, I mean the ground as in the bottom floor of the building

    >and if there WAS an explosion, don't you think it would at least incinerate a decent portion above the plane, not even to mention out the sides?

    It did. The pictures clearly show at least up to the second floor is badly burned and so it part of the third floor

    These people have way to much time on there hands...

    >Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour* only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?

    Considering the mass of the plane and its speed, its momentum would have been incredible! If the plane took a nose dive into the pentagon, there would only be a relatively small section in diameter of damage to the building. Its not as if the plane stopped in mid air, then fell downward belly first. It _nose dived_ into the building.

    Furthermore, the speed of the plane and the fact that it nose dived supports the fact that there is relatively little damage to the building outside of where the plane collided. My physics teacher did a demonstration once where he shot a pencil through a piece of wood. The only damage to the wood was where the pencil went through.

    >Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?

    read my earlier post

    >You'll remember that the aircraft only hit the ground floor of the Pentagon's first ring. Can you find debris of a Boeing 757-200 in this photograph?

    There wouldnt be very much debris at all. Again, considering the speed at which the plane nose dived, the entire body of the plane would have compacted onto itself. Plus, since the plane landed completely inside the builing, any debris that might have flown about during the explosion would have been contained withing the builing itself

    >Can you explain why the Defence Secretary deemed it necessary to sand over the lawn, which was otherwise undamaged after the attack?

    I have no idea!

    >Can you explain what happened to the wings of the aircraft and why they caused no damage?

    Again, they would have been compressed just as all the other debris inside the building. Assuming the plane nose-dived, why would one expect the wings to have popped off and land on the front lawn?

    >Can you explain why the County Fire Chief could not tell reporters where the aircraft was?

    because they could only see from the outside and the plane itself would have been completely demolished

    >Can you find the aircraft's point of impact?
    Cant really tell anything from that picture. And, if the plane did a nose-dive through the roof, there wouldnt be any impact crater on the surface.

    >Did you find the Boeing? Can you still defend the official version of events?

    Yes.
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