datainjector

Do you belive in god...in the entity that is the greatest ..is perfect ... Well i dont its alll just a ****ty crap ...for ignorant people ...We are human beings and to share our fear we make an imaginary entity and name it god ,alha, jesus or whatever ...

Am i wrong ??? if u do think so then correct me .... Isnt the life that you living has proved that there isnt any god???any higher entity ...

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DarkStar

You may be right, then again you may be wrong. Something that has always moved me is the trinity. Everything seems to happen by 3s

Father, Mother, Child
Ocean, Land, Sky
Sun, Moon, Earth

Earth, the planet with life, is the third planet from the sun.

Is it not interesting that the Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon, yet it is 400 times more distant from the Earth than the Moon is. Both Sun and Moon appear to be exactly the same size
in Earth's sky !

Maybe there is something to this GOD theory...

face_master

ARe you crazy? Starting a religious thread on this board?? Ok, this is gonna stay at the top of the list for ages now cause of all the posts.

Yes, I believe that there's a God. A seriously believe that everything which happenes is meant to happen. This gives me some comfort when i'm thinking about things.

*Puts on flame suit and lights up flame-thrower*

Let's go, punks

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no-one

hasn't this been done enough, yes to all of your dismay im back, go and cry for a bit, and accept it, though to your excite i won't be here much.

we need a 'Before You Start A Religious Thread' "Sticky" that has links the prevous religious threads for others to satisfy themselves with.

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TechWins

I already know my beliefs are right (to me), so there's no need for me to argue. All that matters is what you believe, regardless if it's true or not. If what you believe in (or don't beleive in, like myself) helps you out then good for you. As long as what other people believe doesn't effect you then it shouldn't matter to you.

Basicall the reason why I'm atheist is because religion conflicts with not only science but with other religions. The thousands and thousands of religions that have existed make it impossible to believe in one religion. Which is all why I've chosen the route of not believing in anything in all. Originally religion was started for two reasons 1) the people needed something else to believe in because their lives were so bad 2) it was a method of explaining things that they couldn't explain otherwise. Since I'm able to get through my life perfectly fine without a "greater power" and that the things back then that couldn't be explained can now be explained with scientific facts, makes me have no reason to believe in "God". I put greater power and God in quatation marks because there is no God. God can not exist if Alah exists. Alah can not exists if such and such exists. To me it is self-conflicting which proves it all not to be true. Ok that's enough.

Like I said at the beginning, though, I have no problem with other people's beliefs at all. In fact who's to say mine are even true? I'm to say my beliefs are true just as you are to say that you're beliefs are true. There is no right or wrong in this situation. Well, in at least most cases there is no right or wrong.

EDIT: ah, no-one, you should stick around. actually you really should; i think you have a lot of good posts.

no-one

though i could lay sufficient woop-ass to your statement to make you lie in bed crying and begging for Gods forgiveness and mercy for a week, im not going to help pour gas on a flame war. hehe.

btw: more power to ya! you probably won't be an athiest for to much longer anyway.

>EDIT: ah, no-one, you should stick around. actually you really should; i think you have a lot of good posts.

only in after thought.

inconsistancy and (cant think of the word) to the point of vast confusion is a skill i mastered early. people never know if im serious, joking, or something else altogether, i'd like to keep it that way.

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Nutshell

I believe that there IS a God. I repeat, there really is an entity called God. If you look close, many religions can basically relate and trace its root down to Christianity.

So you believe that a guy just wrote a book like Bible out of boredom?!?

I bet everyone here prayed at least once in there life time!!

TechWins

no-one,

This really irritates me. You're getting mad at me, because I stated my belief. That's what I believe in and you have no right to say that it is wrong. Just as I have no right saying that you are Christian is wrong. I told you why I'm atheist, but that doesn't mean what I said is right. It's just what I believe in. What you believe in doesn't mean it's right either. Like I said previously, there is no right or wrong in someone's beliefs so as long as it doesn't seriously effect someone else. My beliefs aren't effecting anyone, so you shouldn't be getting mad at me. You are very wrong on this one.

Nutshell,

That's not correct considering that Christianity is a relatively new religion. But this is not to say that the possiblity of their being a God isn't there; I just don't think there is a God or god out there.

No idea.

Can't even say that I haven't done that. Haven't done it since I was maybe 10, but I still have done it.

Ok, you know what, I don't care if you have a problem with me or not for not believing the sameway as you do. I'm moral and ethical, and that's all that matters to me. I don't like to judge.

uregged

I think everything is God. We're all entities, souls/consciousnesses/whatever with physical bodies, some more advanced than others (refered to as Gods by the minors). No beginning, no end, no space & no time. It's one consciousness, all one, linked in some way or other. Not going to bother talking about religion, while some of what is written may well be true, it does'nt matter. The truth is out there, or maybe within.

novacain

a truth from a man best remembered as an example of what we must never let happen again.

Just swap 'religion' for 'nation'.

"The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, because the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad.

The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them more easy victims of a big lie than a small one, because they themselves often tell little lies but would be ashamed to tell big ones. Such a form of lying would never enter their heads. They would never credit others with the possibility of such great impudence as the complete reversal of facts. Even explanations would long leave them in doubt and hesitation, and any trifling reason would dispose them to accept a thing as true. Something therefore always remains and sticks from the most imprudent of lies, a fact which all bodies and individuals nothing to achieve this end. "
Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf



I wish humans were special enough to be a gods creation but I can not see any evidence we are.

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adrianxw

I'm glad you popped in here Novacain! I was just about to run off to the Windows board and copy your sig!

It amazes me that primitive superstitions like gods, spirits, souls, witches and so on survive in this day and age. The world will be a much better place when everyone can see these things for what they are.

I predict this thread will go bad - religious ones always do.

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unregged

You have eyes, yet you do not see what is really there hence the ignorance.

Religion aside, because that is a dead end, logical thinking would make most people who think they think logically see beyond the end of their nose.

Nutshell

What prove you got to say that. If you're talking about sep 11, then there are many interviews taken and articles written addressing to link between god and the incident.

Techwins, i 'believe....' that your belief actually includes the assumption that what everyone believe is their own choice. Well, to a certain extent, that is true - the Bible says that God really gave human the right to choose whether to follow him. However, just to remind you, just assume that there IS REALLY a God then you have been living on the wrong side of life for your previous years.

Another point to argue against atheist is that the reason most people who don't believe in God or any religions is because they haven't encountered any major breakdown or such cases in life. Countless cases have been provened that many atheist had become christians because of an incident in their life, which really doubted their previous belief (or non-belief).

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Sentaku senshi

>Basicall the reason why I'm atheist is because religion conflicts with not only science but with other religions. The thousands and thousands of religions that have existed make it impossible to believe in one religion. Which is all why I've chosen the route of not believing in anything in all. Originally religion was started for two reasons 1) the people needed something else to believe in because their lives were so bad 2) it was a method of explaining things that they couldn't explain otherwise. Since I'm able to get through my life perfectly fine without a "greater power" and that the things back then that couldn't be explained can now be explained with scientific facts, makes me have no reason to believe in "God". I put greater power and God in quatation marks because there is no God. God can not exist if Alah exists. Alah can not exists if such and such exists. To me it is self-conflicting which proves it all not to be true. Ok that's enough.<

1. I've read the entire new testement, and so far have read a good section of the old and so far nothing that is scientific fact not theory conflicts with the bibble.

2. Everyone has there own option and is entitled to it. Different options dont' disprove each other.

3. Very little detail is put in how God created the universe and everything else. He simply said let there be light. and from the darkness came light.
vs

Science

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PJYelton

I don't think he is saying that the bible contradicts science, but instead was used to explain things that at the time couldn't be explained.

The ancients didn't understand how volcanoes worked, so voila, they created a god that worked in a volcano. In the bibles time people didn't understand eclipses, so suddenly the story becomes "God is angry with us for being such bad sinners so he took away our sun!"

I'm curious though if most christians here believe that much of the bible is a metaphor or if it is to be taken literally 100%. Like for example evolution/dinosaurs/world being much older than what the bible portrays, etc...