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This is a discussion on radon vs. geforce within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; >lol yeah, but my monitor does - at 100fps (i.e. hz)< LOL... >Id say just wait till next month and ...

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    >lol yeah, but my monitor does - at 100fps (i.e. hz)<

    LOL...

    >Id say just wait till next month and get the newest from Nvidia. I recomend anything from them due to the stability of their drivers. Ive had a Tnt, Tnt2 ultra, a geforce 2, and now a geforce3 ti500 and have enjoyed all of them.<

    Echo that. nVidia is a good company that has good driver support. And their chipsets are probably the best-supported, so I'd wait until their latest card comes out. It should smash ATI's 9700.

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    Originally posted by Hillbillie
    >lol yeah, but my monitor does - at 100fps (i.e. hz)<

    LOL...

    >Id say just wait till next month and get the newest from Nvidia. I recomend anything from them due to the stability of their drivers. Ive had a Tnt, Tnt2 ultra, a geforce 2, and now a geforce3 ti500 and have enjoyed all of them.<

    Echo that. nVidia is a good company that has good driver support. And their chipsets are probably the best-supported, so I'd wait until their latest card comes out. It should smash ATI's 9700.

    Kind of agree, as I use nVidia stuff, but waiting for a new release is foolhardy.

    Think of the release cost?! Not worth it! However when a new one is released..The previous one drops in price...
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    ATI has been the leader for a long time now, but hey, call me loyal, poor, whatever u want but i'll stick with my V5 till the day it explodes and launches out of my pc case in a ball of flames.

    From www.3dfx.com after the nvidia take over:

    Did you know NVIDIA GPUs are the graphics of choice for Half Life users? In a recent Valve Software survey, data captured from 35,488 Half Life user machines showed 67% of graphics were NVIDIA.
    Maybe they didn't care to mention this, but more then 75% of new "standard" pcs ship with cheap p-o-s nvidias in them, and most HL players can't afford new ones. I only know a few HL players that would spend money on an nvidia or use it if they had a choice.


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    Hmm, I must be one of those idiots who went for a nvidia then

    And I never knew that 75% of the comps ship with nvidia, I thought it was "Intel Integrated Graphics"? Maybe the times have changed...
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    At tom's hardware they don't say whether they are overclocking or not.???
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    I found a pretty good synopsis...


    From http://www.worldtechtribune.com/worl...bz07192002.asp

    Nvidia’s newest product, the GeForce4 Ti4600 is an expensive and super fast video chip that is unrivaled by anything else currently available. The GeForce4 or “GF4” as it is commonly known amongst enthusiasts, is close to six months old now but has been the reigning champ of all video cards since its release earlier this year. ATI has slowly moved into the enthusiast, with the ATI Radeon line of video chips, but ever iteration of the Radeon has fallen just short of the corresponding Nvidia product and most embarrassingly so with the GF4. The top of the line GF4 versus the top of the line Radeon is no contest in the eyes of enthusiasts – GF4 wins in every benchmark available by a comfortable margin.

    Nvidia’s comfort may be their undoing. ATI’s slow and steady pace will produce the R300 video chip in August, commercially available under the name “Radeon 9700.” The R300 video chip was endorsed by game programming guru John Carmack at this year’s E3 game expo in Los Angeles as the “fastest card” for his upcoming Doom 3 video game. Initial tests conducted by enthusiast hardware websites show the R300 chip commanding a 35%-50% performance gain over the GF4 Ti4600 in nearly every benchmark, with higher quality images to boot. History suggests that in the next month, near the end of the six month cycle, Nvidia will release their NV30 and the R300’s reign as performance king will abruptly end.

    However, Nvidia is faltering on their self-imposed six month product cycle. The NV30 chip won’t be released until Christmas or possibly early 2003, giving ATI’s R300 chip month’s worth of good press and time to build a loyal following. When the NV30 chip is finally released, its specs and performance will likely be similar to the R300 but at a slightly higher price since ATI will undoubtedly lower the price of their five to six month-old R300 chip, especially when Nvidia’s NV30 hits the market. What is the cause of Nvidia’s slipping on the release date? Speculation suggests that when Nvidia bought their rival 3DFX, they have suffered the same problems integrating the disparate groups together under one umbrella

    History will not be kind to Nvidia if the NV30 is a dud compared to ATI’s R300 and neither will the enthusiast crowd. The enthusiasts are a fickle bunch – just ask any 3DFX shareholder.
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    That article seems more like an opinion from a nvidia user :P

    >>And I never knew that 75% of the comps ship with nvidia, I thought it was "Intel Integrated Graphics"? Maybe the times have changed...

    thats a percentage figure i jus pulled from the sky, most of them would be a better term. Most HL users that own standard computers would take the cheaper video upgrade when building they're computers, and even if they didn't, companies like dell, compaq, gateway, etc, don't ship (usually) with ATI, and with 3dfx no longer cranking, who else sides nvdiai would they use?

    Its not so much a choice, but, economically speaking, a lack of options. I mean don't get me wrong i have a GF4, i bought it when i built my new system, but in benchmarks, and in my general opinion, my V5 scored slightly higher.

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    who else sides nvdiai would they use?
    Well, as I said, "Intel Integrated 3D graphics" was pretty popular at some time, and later it was upgraded to "Intel 32 mb AGP graphics", then "Intel Xtreme 32 mb 3D/2D hardware acceleration AGP graphics" or something Sounds impressive, eh?
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