Drugs for programmers

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    Originally posted by Hillbillie
    Have you ever drank alcohol?
    I get the feeling that that grammatical fault is due to usage of drugs, as I assume you're a native speaker, since you appear to be living in the US

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    >>I have never, and will never touch that crap.

    Great, thats fine.

    >>Cannabis, Alcohol, Tobacco, Hydrocodone, Speed, Ephedrine, Salvia

    Also fine.

    My point? Theres a lot of arguments on all sides of the fence (and theres more than just two sides to this particular fence). There are drug users, and drug abusers. I'm not particularly either of those, though I have tried a few different things over time. You cant morally argue for or against something that you have no experience with.

    Everything can be dangerous, and everything can be abused. The drugs in question are _all_ addictive, theres really no question about that. So thats something to consider. Tobacco is addictive as well, but we allow it to be sold and used in our streets... And we know its highly harmful.

    The lines are drawn from social acceptablity. No one thinks twice about taking a few tylenol to cure a headache. So whats wrong with smoking up to relax after, say, a particularly stressful day? Enough tylenol can easily kill you. Medium amounts produce mind altering effects. Compare that to weed... Hmm...

    And to make things clear, I'm not advocating anything here. I personally dont think its okay to be taking either a lot of a drug or many different kinds. It can and will mess you up. Sometimes for good. I'm just saying; Don't be too fast to judge. Take a look at things from other angles.

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    >I get the feeling that that grammatical fault is due to usage of drugs, as I assume you're a native speaker, since you appear to be living in the US<

    God, you're kind really upsets me...disgusts me even.

    You and I both know damned well that many people get drank and drunk, swam and swum, etc. mixed up.

    I also know if I had said I hated drugs and thought they were evil that you wouldn't be so ****ing pedantic on my mistake. (See BMJ's "suprise" instead of "surprise".)

    Give me a break, and don't be so critical. You're telling me you've never made a simple grammatical error? Oh yeah, that's right - you don't use drugs - you must be a really intelligent person.

    Edit: L@D, you make some very great points. You just refreshed my hope that there's sane people in the world. Thanks.

    Edit 2: Wait a minute. Is saying "Have you ever drank..." grammatically incorrect to begin with? I'm starting to think it's not incorrect... (Please someone with adequate knowledge clear this up.)
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    BMJ, you avatar is so tight cause it looks like its dancing to a funky beat. w0000oo000ooo000

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    Do your drugs,
    get drunk all you want.

    You'll be the one dead or in prison for killing someone.


    It's your life. Not letting you try this stuff out is limiting freedoms that i think are very important.

    Point: do what you want. If you are stupid enough to get addicted to drugs and run yourself into the ground, you deserve it.

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    Originally posted by Aran Elus
    Do your drugs,
    get drunk all you want.

    You'll be the one dead or in prison for killing someone.


    It's your life. Not letting you try this stuff out is limiting freedoms that i think are very important.

    Point: do what you want. If you are stupid enough to get addicted to drugs and run yourself into the ground, you deserve it.
    Wow, you really are brainwashed if you think that. Drugs mess up SOME peoples lives, but a majority of people who have used drugs in their lives live a life just as normal as yours.

    I personally smoke pot several times a week, and quite a bit of it. I like being high - its fun! It's something me and all my friends have in common. Potheads sort of form a brotherhood, if you will.

    Will it ruin my life? No. I get straight A's and take the hardest school classes available to me. I work 20 hours a week at a well paying job, have a decent car, and get along just fine. I wrote probably about 40-50% of my matrix class and definitions when I was feeling the residual effects of being stoned (i.e. the really tired/sorta high after effect of smoking a lot of pot).

    But smoking pot can be detrimental too, theres no denying it - it costs quite a bit of money if you do it often (which wouldn't be a big deal to me if I didn't have to save up for car insurance and to pay for the college course i'm taking next semester). I also find myself unmotivated, perhaps the worst thing about pot - I wouldn't recommend it to people unless they are already REALLY motivated or if they are already really UNMOTIVATED (since it wouldn't change anything). I don't program nearly as much as I'd like to because I get high so often - but I'm taking control of that at the moment and WILL be cutting down. POT IS NOT ADDICTIVE.

    Anyways, I'd like to point out that all I just said doesn't apply to some drugs. I'd say of all the common drugs, LSD, shrooms, and pot are the least dangerous - none of them are physically harmful or addictive at ALL (except for the smoke from pot). The only danger of LSD and shrooms are going crazy - which is why you should always have a "sitter". Most other "harder" drugs (opiates, coke/crack, pcp (?), xtc(?), some pills, etc) are definitely more dangerous and addictive - hence why I wouldn't ever do them. But that doesn't mean that some people can't do them once and never do it again. My friends mom did heroin and coke when she was in college and she's perfectly normal and healthy.

    Drugs don't necessarily ruin lives, stupid people on drugs ruin there own lives.

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    um..you completely missed what i was saying.

    the idea is: do drugs if you want to because it is something that every person is entitled to do, but if you are stupid with them and run yourself into the ground with them, you deserve it.

    never did i say anywhere that i thought drugs messed up EVERY users life. I have several friends who smoke all types of drugs a few times a week and i have no problems with it, and alot of times it makes them more interesting people.

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    Originally posted by Aran Elus
    um..you completely missed what i was saying.

    the idea is: do drugs if you want to because it is something that every person is entitled to do, but if you are stupid with them and run yourself into the ground with them, you deserve it.

    never did i say anywhere that i thought drugs messed up EVERY users life. I have several friends who smoke all types of **** a few times a week and i have no problems with it, and alot of times it makes them more interesting people.
    One of your first statements, "You'll be the one dead or in prison for killing someone." threw me off. Sorry. But what I said still holds true.

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    please pardon my abiguousity... too many ideas and too few words per minute :P

    what you said is very valid, indeed, and i agree with you on it.

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    Well said, Capt. Penguin! Hear hear!! (Edit: Ah, apparently I had mis-read your post, Aran. I was confused because I had thought you weren't so blindly prejudice. Thanks for clearing it up.)

    But to add to what you have said, I know many people who are the brightest, smartest people and also happen to use drugs recreationally.

    One of the smartest guys I know is also one of the biggest potheads I know. He's a really cool guy: one of those people EVERYONE (even the unpopular people) like and are friends with.

    Many people on these very forums and also at FD use drugs regulary; they're also many of the most intelligent beings I know. Some of their programming skills put mine to shame.

    Now with that being said, I have to stress that there are those that abuse drugs. These are the people who throw away their lives. Not all drug users are abusers. Not all drug users are idiots. Not all drug users are evil.

    Edit 2:

    Also, many drugs help people. My friend has a prescription for speed (amphetamine salts; Adderall specifically). Without it, I doubt he would be able to maintain a 2.0 GPA. He has really bad ADD, and it causes him to not be able to retain the information he learns in school.
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    hehe

    Okay so the Born Agains in the house are
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    Ha i dont belive this some of u guys dont even drink ??Sheesh



    Lightdawn not all drugs are addictive like weed , ecstacy,acid etc arnt addictive
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    Originally posted by Hillbillie
    Wait a minute. Is saying "Have you ever drank..." grammatically incorrect to begin with? I'm starting to think it's not incorrect... (Please someone with adequate knowledge clear this up.)
    Actually, you would use the past participle, "drunk"... "Have you ever drunk alcohol?"

    Using another word as an example, "Forgive"...
    "Have you ever forgave him?" (drank)
    "Have you ever forgiven gim?" (drunk)

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    Re: hehe

    Originally posted by datainjector
    Okay so the Born Agains in the house are
    Aran Elus
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    OMG NO! *slap* NO NO NO! HELL NO!

    Don't you ever make a judgement like that about me again!! ass! You don't know me!

    Yes, I find that highly offensive on my behalf! (obviously)



    *slap*

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    BMJ, thanks for clearing it up. I completely hated all that verb tense crap...

    >Lightdawn not all drugs are addictive like weed , ecstacy,acid etc arnt addictive<

    That's true. But I think he meant addicting as in potential to be habit forming. Of course anything enjoyable has that potential...

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    Re: hehe

    Originally posted by datainjector
    Lightdawn not all drugs are addictive like weed , ecstacy,acid etc arnt addictive
    Spoken like a true drug user.

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