Magos - I like your second one better (IMHO, of course).
> Magos didnt ask for his opinion
Well, he posted his idea for a logo - I kinda thought it was implied that he wanted comments.
Other than that, cool it, cgawd and face - I know you think I'm on some wicked power trip or something (YES! I WILL CLOSE EVERY THREAD I DON'T LIKE! WOOHOO! THE POWER IS DELICIOUS! THREADS! CLOSED! AHAHAHHAHAHAA!), but if you guys continue fighting on here, I'm going to close the thread someone so kindly re-opened. Fight on AIM or something. Check each other's profiles for screen names. It's a much better place to fight anyways - witty quips like "I know you are but what am I" and "I'm rubber, you're glue" are delivered in real time!