I hate being computer literate

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    haha my cs teahcer does dumb **** all the time, for today example, she often mixes up languages as she teaches several bfore our c++ class:

    She is talking today and refering to j++ instead of c++ (java), and writes this on the board.

    #include <iostream.h>

    int main ();

    dim intcounter as integer;

    for ; (intcounter < 10;;

    cin <<"Enter a number";;

    cout >>input


    Gee can you find all the errors here??? haha i corrected her and she got a little mad. I decided to bring up my game, as many know i had probs with virtual keys, and tried to see if she knew why i had problems. Well i know why but she had no experience with VK's!!!!

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    They teach UML in school, but most of the students don't take it seriously because they don't have enough experience with OOP. For some reason OOP is a difficult subject, it almost seems that no teacher can teach it.

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    Originally posted by Ride -or- Die
    haha my cs teahcer does dumb **** all the time, for today example, she often mixes up languages as she teaches several bfore our c++ class:

    She is talking today and refering to j++ instead of c++ (java), and writes this on the board.

    #include <iostream.h>

    int main ();

    dim intcounter as integer;

    for ; (intcounter < 10;;

    cin <<"Enter a number";;

    cout >>input


    Gee can you find all the errors here??? haha i corrected her and she got a little mad. I decided to bring up my game, as many know i had probs with virtual keys, and tried to see if she knew why i had problems. Well i know why but she had no experience with VK's!!!!
    ::senses slight amount of embellishment::

    Nobody's that stupid. Maybe if she were typing it up quick on a projector I could see it, but up on a board? No way.


    Eh, my teacher isn't too bad, but at least he recognizes that I know more C++ than him. He could whoop my ass in Delphi any day (he keeps referring to it like it's the greatest thing ever), but he's not too great at C++.

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    of course i made her look worse then it was :P

    for the most part its accurate i added the extra ; on the lines, thats it.

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    I dunno about teachers these days, but at UNI the lecturers are spot on.

    They can and do teach you C++ in the correct manner.

    Not many students surpass the knowledge of the lecturers-I mean this in the broad term, not like a final year project.(which could be in a diff area of study).

    But most teachers hold a degree dont they? Cant remember any being that dumb!
    Such is life.

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    But most teachers hold a degree dont they? Cant remember any being that dumb!
    Degree doens't make u competent.

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    I'm in gr11, and at my school, they teach VB in gr11 and I'm taking Java now in gr12. In both courses, if someone's program wasn't working, my teacher would call me over. He's competent, but lazy.
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    I've never had any incompetent programming professors back when I was in school. They all seem to know their stuff. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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    Had a professor, now a friend, that used to mix up languages during lectures. Perhaps because he was teaching so many that they all ran together after a while.

    He wasn't arrogant about it in the least. In fact, he encouraged us to correct his errors. Not a bad teaching lesson.

    There are lousy teachers just as there are lousy programmers. Welcome to the real world.

    "Those who can't do, teach". Right? Bullsh**!

    My apologies, but this one is totally unfair to a vast number of professionals who work very hard to impart knowledge to a broad range of students, some of whom are aren't as "sharp" as those running their mouths on this Board. (A little humility might be in order here.)

    Next time you find your teacher in error, why not try acting somewhat mature and point out the error, discreetly. You may just find that he/she has more to offer to you than the "boxed" version of the course.

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    Next time you find your teacher in error, why not try acting somewhat mature and point out the error, discreetly. You may just find that he/she has more to offer to you than the "boxed" version of the course.
    Excuse me, but how do I find an error in a teacher's teachings () when they dont even teach us; they just give us the text book and say "Uh...just read the book" and if you ask them a question, their answer os always "uh i dunno" or "probably..."

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    reminds me of my last year computer science teacher, he really tried learning c but he wasn't any good at it, usually for lessons he photocopied a package from a book and told us to take notes on it and do a couple of the questions which where making small programs and stuff. it wasn't half bad if u showed some initative, my teacher actually tried to help as much as he could, though this year he isn't teaching cs anymore. my grade 12 comp sci teacher (presently) refers to me and 3 others as teh elite bunch hehe, we know more than him and he doesn't try to deny it, he actually tries to make us work harder to learn even more thats what i like about him, beginning of the year we had to make a proposal on what we where gonna do this year and what we are planning to learn, i'm actually having lots of fun our projects include learning sockets and making a 'warm up' card game (online) but then... ahh i'm getting way off track.. anyway overall my computer science teachers try to teach us as best as they can but you have to understand that in programming their is always someone younger than you who knows much more than you too.
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    Well, my CS course, isn't pointless for me.
    I AM taking something away from it.
    Interpersonal Communication
    IT Math
    Business

    As for the computer stuff, I'm going to school to get certified - not learn.

    I do get use out of it, as listed above: areas that trouble me/I need brushing up on, and the ceritifaction.
    Also, when an instructore needs to be realized of an error, or doesn't quite know how to do something, I point them in the right direction how. This has led me to become a lab rat for one class, but eh, I don't care.

    My personal opinion here:
    I've stopped being so disappointed at instructors, because there's nothing you can do really. I mean, I'm not going to blame an instructor for not being able to catch onto a new OS in 2 days, because they don't sit in front of the pc 24/7 like some people.
    I'm not going to blame them for blundering, or take a little bit longer with a bit of code simply because they do not practice, or toy around in their free time - partially because they have none.

    I just gave up on the whole matter, and I'm out of this conversation too!
    The world is waiting. I must leave you now.

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    I started C++ at the start of year 8
    I wrote a calculator program in Borland Turbo C in year 5. It sucked big time.

    But I thought it was da ****.

    Due to my short concentration span and lack of dedication to anything, I'm still an awful C programmer and if someone says "malloc" I freeze, at which point they can hit me with a heavy object, causing me to shatter. Like on demolition man.

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    Originally posted by face_master
    Excuse me, but how do I find an error in a teacher's teachings () when they dont even teach us; they just give us the text book and say "Uh...just read the book" and if you ask them a question, their answer os always "uh i dunno" or "probably..."
    I'm in year 11 now. They let you have VB on your username if you ask, I asked in year 9. It was taken away from my username when I wrote a program to remove the restrictions and allow access to the dos prompt, c drive, run box, right click etc. For some stupid retarded reason, right click is disabled. Annoying.

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    Lets see I could get Au$40,000 teaching in a HS (if I spent another year getting my Dip Ed) after I spent one to two years outback (before I got posted to a city school).

    Then I get to work with a bunch of kids, who think they know everything or have no desire to be there or learn, on PC's I would throw away (with no resources to maintain them).

    After all that I get to teach the same stuff over and over, year after year.........


    Or I can get twice to five times that as a comercial software engineer and the company will throw the latest technology at me (as I try to invent some new uses for the stuff).




    Which would you choose?

    Which contributes more to our society?

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