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    >I want to open some horizons to invention but first just become familiar with all of the ideas being researched<

    Crapola. In a thread a few weeks ago you didn't see the distinction between something as simple as a list vs. a contiguous memory array. In order to sail over new horizons you've got to be able to use a compass.

    >I don't want to do these things just through learning vendor tools, but I would like to be able to implement them myself or at least in hand with open source research. <

    You don't have to learn anything through vendors. That's what your comp sci course is for. Buy a load of text books and perhaps make it through the first couple of chapters.

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    I still kind of see what TK is getting at (I think). Isn't he trying to say that he wants to build his own systems? He wants to build his own '.NET' or whatever. If that is what he is saying then I guess I agree with him. The C/C++ languages are for research and development, or for building your own 'systems' (yes I'm getting tired of Systems and Solutions but they are easy). On the other hand I think Fill shouldn't be bashed for being a Win32 developer. I think that's a fine profession. And it's not like he's inferior, quite the contrary, he's probably more capable of building his own systems (we're talking about Brain here) if he wanted to. And it's not like any one person has all the answers to the direction that software should go in. Was that at least somewhat on the right track?

    Hey Fill, how did you start learning Win32? (you are a winapi developer correct?) Did you start learning it in college? How many hours per day do you work? Is work consistently available for you? Do you like cheese?

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    >Isn't he trying to say that he wants to build his own systems? <

    Perhaps. Perhaps he's just spouting propaganda. Perhaps we have the next Bill Gates (would you kill him now?). Perhaps he's just talking sh't, man, to cover his own asss.

    >He wants to build his own '.NET' or whatever<

    If he does then he's no idea of how many man hours are involved.I'm alright though. I've got the longevity pill.

    >I agree with him. The C/C++ languages are for research and development<

    No. They're for programming. As soon as they're R&D then see yaa COBOL.

    *thought better of it and edited the sick nazi joke*
    Last edited by Enmeduranki; 09-07-2002 at 12:33 PM.

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    I know the difference between an array and a list Enmerdemonkey.

    Sorry but I'm not interested in learning a system interface unless I can study the implementation.

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    >I know the difference between an array and a list Enmerdemonkey.<

    But how does it fit your politics?

    >Sorry but I'm not interested in learning a system interface unless I can study the implementation.<

    I suppose either would be a start.

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    Originally posted by Enmeduranki
    >I know the difference between an array and a list Enmerdemonkey.<

    But how does it fit your politics?
    I don't know monkey, I actually have no idea what you are talking about. Does anyone? <ape sounds>

    I can't say this more clearly. I do not want to use Microsoft!!!

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    >I don't know monkey, I actually have no idea what you are talking about. Does anyone? <ape sounds>

    Does anybody care?

    >I can't say this more clearly. I do not want to use Microsoft!!!<

    Does anybody care?

    >You are stupid<

    Does anybody care?

    Well, yes it makes my visits to cprogramming more amusing. Keep it up.

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    Remember I don't live in a poor country. Even though corporations like Microsoft dumped operating systems on my like Win9x, which are not good quality, as least my culture didn't get dominated. I only use the Microsoft OS on my notebook computer because it was dumped on me when I bought the system. It won't say on there for too long though.

    I don't support any vendor systems. I would rather learn to build my own. Why is that sooo difficult to handle for you?

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    But I'll think you'll find that my ........ is far more yellow than yours. What better test of constitution of a man?

    >as least my culture didn't get dominated<

    LMAO, I'll guess you're on your way to Quebec right now. Right? Aww, come on play the game.

    >Why is that sooo difficult to handle for you?<

    nufinks too difficult. Makin fun of self importaaaant dicks is fuuuun.

    Yes?

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    Like I said, I don't follow what it is that you want.

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    >Like I said, I don't follow what it is that you want.<

    I want your soul. Are you too thick headed to realise this? Maybe there's a good solution for this? Maybe? Probably maybe?

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    You want my soul because you don't have one? I think that you should just take my advice, you'll be way better off for it in the long run.

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    Naw, I want your soul because you're so easily led. Have you ever had an original thought?

    I'll make a program at my institution that'll show these guys what I mean someday. I'll make loads of money/weight/whatever. That'll be the day. Who'll be laughing at me then?

    Beat me up Dean, you retard.

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    Originally posted by Shadow12345
    Hey Fill, how did you start learning Win32? (you are a winapi developer correct?) Did you start learning it in college? How many hours per day do you work? Is work consistently available for you? Do you like cheese?
    I started learning Win32 from some version of Petzold quite some time ago. I REALLY learned it on the job. When you have to develop and debug on a large project you start to realize how everything fits together a lot better.

    College had nothing to do with my WinAPI training. Courses in college are far more theoretical (but yes, useful). They don't teach programming as much as they probably should in a Computer Science program. We used mostly PASCAL.

    full time programmer. 8-9 hours 5 days a week. Work is more scarce now than it was two years ago but I'm not too worried (of course I'm not out of work right now ).

    Yes, I like cheese. In fact I was furious today when I sent my wife to get Subway subs. I asked for turkey+swiss sub and found out THEY DON'T HAVE SWISS? How could a sandwich shop not have swiss cheese!?!? This is an outrage.

    can I go now?
    "You are stupid! You are stupid! Oh, and don't forget, you are STUPID!" - Dexter

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    Originally posted by Enmeduranki
    Naw, I want your soul because you're so easily led. Have you ever had an original thought?

    I'll make a program at my institution that'll show these guys what I mean someday. I'll make loads of money/weight/whatever. That'll be the day. Who'll be laughing at me then?

    Beat me up Dean, you retard.
    You sound like a bigger **** head than golfinguy. That is a difficult thing to accomplish, congratulations.

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