Kashmir/Terrorism Issue

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    Translated from quran: (not manipulated by me)

    Jihad - an act of war against non muslims for the propagation of islam.
    there are 3 such wars, and the 3rd war will bring the whole world
    under the rule of the great shariya law, the law of islam.

    Ghazi - the honorary name given to a muslim when he kills a non muslim
    Last edited by moonwalker; 08-22-2002 at 09:32 PM.

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    Originally posted by golfinguy4
    Moonwalker, troll_king was just trying to get a rise out of you.

    Govt. was kidding around about the hindus. He was making a point. You mentioned the drug cases, but provided no facts. He did the same thing in a sarcastic manner.

    Jeez, some people need to chill out.
    FYI, I provided a link to the human rights website that proves
    what i said.

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    Just wanted to say,

    India was not the first country to gain independence without a war. India lost the war of independence (often called the Sepoy Riots) in 1857.

    India gained independence in 1947, I don't know which country was first (without a war) but Australia federated in 1901 (without a war).

    On the 'blacks' in prison;

    Australian Aborigines are ~3% of the population but closer to 25% of the prison population.

    This either (depending on your point of view) means Australian Aborigines commit more crimes OR Australian Aborigines are treated more hashly by the courts than non Aborigines.


    Kashmir is (was, I was there nearly two decades ago) one of the most beautiful places on earth.
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    Originally posted by moonwalker
    Translated from quran: (not manipulated by me)

    Jihad - an act of war against non muslims for the propagation of islam.
    there are 3 such wars, and the 3rd war will bring the whole world
    under the rule of the great shariya law, the law of islam.

    Ghazi - the honorary name given to a muslim when he kills a non muslim
    I am a muslim and I have no idea where did you get this translation from because I never heard of it.

    If you want to know anything about Islam go to this site http://english.islamway.com/

    If you want the translation of the Holy Qur'an go here http://english.islamway.com/sindex.p...=erecitorslist

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    I am an Indian here... Isee a lot of so called kashmiri experts here.. one saying he know more than the other and the other saying it is a game of tit for tat.. Well i say let all the world leaders shut their ass and leave us alone to settle our issue for once for all.......

    The world tells us to talk peace.. but amerioca jumps to war why did it not talk peace with Osama...

    Every time there was a war like situation.. India sent home pakistan officials with honour requesting them politely but pakistan always arrested indian officials from the Indian embasy in pakistan and sent them home with broken legs and hands... How i wish this onece happens to American officials..(America will instantly jump to war and preach peace to everyone..)

    It looks like America is more comfortable with a fundamental dictatorship country than with the worlds largest democracy... Well i ask god to put all American ass in pakistan for a month before they talk....

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    Well i say let all the world leaders shut their ass and leave us alone to settle our issue for once for all.......
    That's really funny. Did you read that back to yourself before you posted that? I am sure the leaders of the world are just as tired of dealing with you people.

    The world tells us to talk peace.. but amerioca jumps to war why did it not talk peace with Osama...
    Who says we didn't? You? Are you a member of my goverment? No. So now who's the "expert"?

    How i wish this onece happens to American officials..(America will instantly jump to war and preach peace to everyone..)
    You think we would talk peace if that happened? Your really naive.

    It looks like America is more comfortable with a fundamental dictatorship country than with the worlds largest democracy...
    Again. Did you really put any form of intelligent thought into this post?

    Well i ask god to put all American ass in pakistan for a month before they talk....
    You haven't contributed to this discussion. My suggestion to you is to think and rethink your posting. Have your parents read it over for you if you need help. Good Luck.

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    //That's really funny. Did you read that back to yourself before you posted that? I am sure the leaders of the world are just as tired of dealing with you people


    Then why do you want to poke your nose into our business


    //Who says we didn't? You? Are you a member of my goverment? No. So now who's the "expert"?


    The usual american double talk

    //You think we would talk peace if that happened? Your really naive

    Always thinks it is above others...(but dosent knoe a damm abiut anytin else outside US)

    well what do you know abot the issue.. you just get your news from CNN and you talk all kind of bull ****.. So u better ask your moma to get you some history books.....

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    hmm

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    How i wish this onece happens to American officials..(America will instantly jump to war and preach peace to everyone..)

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    You think we would talk peace if that happened? Your really naive.
    Maybe you didn't read his post properly.
    This is what Vasanth said:
    Every time there was a war like situation.. India sent home pakistan officials with honour requesting them politely but pakistan always arrested indian officials from the Indian embasy in pakistan and sent them home with broken legs and hands...
    following the above... he then said
    How i wish this onece happens to American officials..(America will instantly jump to war and preach peace to everyone..)
    He's not being naive. He's giving an example of how america
    blindly talks about the so called "peace".. and trying to
    explain how america would react if the same things happen
    to it.

    no, i am not trying to flame DISGUISED in this post..
    i retired from this conversation yesterday.
    Last edited by moonwalker; 08-23-2002 at 11:45 AM.

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    Then why do you want to poke your nose into our business
    Maybe it's because both countries aren't rational enough to deal with the situation without moderation. It's not just America you know. What do you think would happen when your radiation clouds begin to kill off people from other nations? You think you have problems now?

    The usual american double talk
    Sure it is. Actually I was making a point. You must have missed it.

    Always thinks it is above others...(but dosent knoe a damm abiut anytin else outside US)
    I won't even respond to that because I am not going to be able to convince you otherwise.

    well what do you know abot the issue.. you just get your news from CNN and you talk all kind of bull ****.. So u better ask your moma to get you some history books.....
    I never claimed to be an expert on this subject but I find CNN to be very entertaining. I don't know what I said that you consider Bull**** but you have the right to your opinions. On this board at least. And I don't care to read about the history of your country. I just don't find interesting although, I am a big fan of your architecture.

    He's not being naive. He's giving an example of how america
    blindly talks about the so called "peace".. and trying to
    explain how america would react if the same things happen
    to it.
    I agreed with the jumping to war part because that's what would happen but we wouldn't be preaching peace in that situation and that's what I thought he was a little naive about.

    no, i am not trying to flame DISGUISED in this post..
    i retired from this conversation yesterday
    Thank you and I think I will join you by exiting this thread now because it seems to have lost any sense of a point.

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    Vasanth, you do realize that when you drop a nuke, the radiation spreads over the entire world. This makes it the entire world's problem.

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    hmm

    i would really want to point out again :
    the country that threatened to use a nuke was pakistan
    NOT india.
    it is because it is afraid that it would lose a conventional
    war (i already said this in the first few posts) with India.

    Here's yahoo news:
    http://in.news.yahoo.com/020530/20/1p549.html


    This is same as.... if US and Mexico were nuclear rivals, for
    example (thank god it's not the case )
    it's like Mexico saying... as we can't fight against US with
    a conventional war, whenever US strikes us even with
    conventional fighter planes/etc, we're going to protect
    ourselves with a nuke.... and getting away with it...

    (this is also called Nuclear Blackmail)
    Last edited by moonwalker; 08-23-2002 at 05:52 PM.

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    >>if US and Mexico were nuclear rivals,

    try US and Cuba and remember the 'Bay of Pigs' crisis.

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    >>And I don't care to read about the history of your country.

    But you feel qualified to comment.

    >>I just don't find interesting although, I am a big fan of your architecture.

    Doesn't this prove vasanth's point?
    "(but dosent knoe a damm abiut anytin else outside US)"

    or doesn't it count if you can't be bothered to become informed (before you enter the discussion)?
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    Well this i smy last reply in this thread i guess....(it is useless talking...)

    and i am sorry for being harsh in my last posts..

    Well we never said we will drop the nukes or even we will use them... It is only pakistan saying that... So in case Mexico says that they will nuke you will America talk peace.. The is making India a scape goat which it is not ready to accept..

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    >>But you feel qualified to comment.<<
    Of course, this was intended to be a discussion of current events not history.

    >>Doesn't this prove vasanth's point?
    "(but dosent knoe a damm abiut anytin else outside US)"

    or doesn't it count if you can't be bothered to become informed (before you enter the discussion)?
    <<
    No, it doesn't, because I know enough about this particular situation. That doesn't mean I need to know everything about the history of the nation. I actually do know quite a bit about India's history. By saying that I just meant that I don't care to study it any further so my mother purchasing me a book wouldn't be necessary Have a nice day.

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    What do we really know about these things? Why not debate about the true reason for wars fought 10000 years ago. The effect would be the same. The truth is this, human beings are:

    1) aggressive
    2) ignorant
    3) narrow-minded
    4) confused
    5) hypocritical
    6) unstable

    What is the debate about then? I'm sorry if I sound simplistic, but in my opinion, nothing is new under the sun. As long as there are beings with conflicting desires, there will be turmoil, hatred, and wars. National officials are just human beings. Do you not argue and fight? Theirs is no different from your or my own tendencies. Even if there were only two people on this planet there would be the threat of war and control. It is the nature of man. Like it or leave it.
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