Drugs, sex, freindship, and suside.

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    Originally posted by Hillbillie
    >If drugs were legalised the amount of money the government would make in tax would easily pay for rehab centres/health care.<

    Another fact I see coming from sane people in this thread.


    YEH YEH YEH...and like the billions made from tobacco tax all(ALL) goes to the NHS in UK to pay for healthcare..........right....

    Fooooools, dont make me laugh. If drugs were taxable it would all vanish into oblivion....

    Beer tax does NOT pay for alcoholics.

    Tobacco tax does NOT pay for cancer treatments etc.

    Drug tax- oh yeh..that will pay for the antidotes/rehab centres....LMFFFFFFFFFFFFAO.

    DAMN...oh yeh, road tax does NOT pay for new roads etc....




    If we legalised drugs we could do research on them, make them less addictive, and less harmfull. I'm a firm believer in education, i think if people were well educated then a lot of the worlds would problems evaporate. At university a lot of people do drugs at some point, and the vast majority go on to become perfectly normal productive members of society.


    Hmmm clyde...so , the above post says what?

    So ppl like me at UNI do drugs and lead normal lives etc.....So why do you think they need to be less harmful/addictive....

    talk about hipocrisy.
    Such is life.

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    and...minesweeper--you are freaking MAD!

    PPL in this country DO go out and get lashed on a Fri/Sat night.................................and EVERYWHERE else in the world FOO!

    The yopung girls do get lashed and need help to get in a taxi....in an ideal world that is safe from weirdo's/rapists etc...there is no problem.

    The same people will wake up and not bother boozing again till next weekend-they are not fuelled by alcohol..

    It is the aged drinking laws that are to blame...we have a culture of drinking fast because we KNOW the place shuts at 11pm....SO we rush the beers.

    Try the continent and you will se the relaxed laws on boozing
    Such is life.

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    You have an unalienable right to injest whatever you care to lick, eat, sniff, inhale, inject, or whatever. Too many 'moral' busy-bodies have tried to prohibit too much.

    In the US, the prohibition was original against Tobacco, Drugs, Alcohol, Firearms, and Sex. The unabridged truth about the prohibition was that it was dreamed up by a ruling class of people (elitist) that wanted to stomp the black man.

    This is not a joke. If you go back and look at the unabridged histories you will find that the term CCN (Coke Crazed N*****) was coined ahead of the prohibition and used as a lobbying propagandist statement to gain 'moral' establishment over the blackman.

    All they had to do was get the 'majority' of folks to go along for the ride, and the rest is a dirty history.

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    In a correct system, the fact of the matter would be that you have a right to injest whatever you want. You also have the right to pay the consequences for your actions while under the influence of said drug(s).

    and that's where the 'system' falls down. How is it you can get life for raping a girl and 7 years for murdering someone? Seems a problem, doesn't it.

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    Other FACToids-- cocain is not addicting. Nope. that's a propagandized lie. Dealers lace cocaine with heroine to make it addicting (that's the truth). Otherwise, cocaine gives you a buzz a cool numbness...

    --- you _all_ at one point in your lives have had the very best, pharmaceutical grade cocaine under various brands (lydocaine, novacaine, procaine, cocaine)... and yet you aren't hopelessly addicted, are you?

    heroine addiction can be beat after 8 days of hell. The term 'cold-turkey' refers to a heroine addict's skin undergoing a cold, clammy, bumpy state during withdrawal.

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    As for bullies, hey, nobody ever said the world was safe. If you can't deal with a bully any better than offing yourself and those around you--- it's evolution in action.

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    "If drugs were legalised the amount of money the government would make in tax would easily pay for rehab centres/health care."

    Somewhere this was said to be comparable to taxes on tobacco. Unforntunately, the people in charge of the money will spend it on other things...like pay raises for themselves. Remember all the money from the tobacco settlements a couple of years ago? Where's that money now? Gone. What do we have to show for it? Nothing. Example: North Carolina (whose economy depends on tobacco...hell, it's the home of RJR) put all of the money the state was awarded into a trust fund for use only if absolutely required. After years of being semi-financially responsible, The Sate of North Carolina suddenly has a deficit - a deficit that, *coincidently* can be exactly offset by the amount in the trust fund. So they're going to tap the fund and it'll all be gone. Kinda like the Feds with social security. All that money, just gotta spend it.

    Money gained from the legalization of drugs would never be used for such altruistic purposes as clinics, healthcare, etc. It'd just find it's way into somebody's pocket.

    Sayeh, I'm not sure about the whole black thing, but I will agree that most of these prohibition type (social engineering) laws come from elitists who know what's good for you better than you do (not necessarily the ruling class, just people who *think* they're better than you).
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    > come from elitists who know what's good for you better than you do
    That statement doesn't sit right with me.
    What's good for ME, is a matter of personal preference, not outside preference.

    Sort of like this:
    Shadow: Fletch, stick your head in the toilet.
    Fletch: No, I don't want to.
    Shadow: I know what's good for you better than you do. Do it.

    It doesn't make sense does it?

    P.S.
    Whoever started this thread definately got a politics discussion and history lesson.
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    Sorry Shadow...

    >>come from elitists who know what's good for you better than you do
    <Insert heavy sarcasm here ^>

    You were pickin' up what I was puttin' down though. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.

    And no, I DON'T wanna stick my head in the toilet
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    >YEH YEH YEH...and like the billions made from tobacco tax all(ALL) goes to the NHS in UK to pay for healthcare..........right....<

    Actually, in the US, a percentage of the taxes made from tobacco sales (which is indeed a ****load...ever wonder why a pack costs 5 bucks?) goes to fuel healthcare and education.

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    > And no, I DON'T wanna stick my head in the toilet
    You sure? It feels prety nice on a warm summer's day.

    > a pack costs 5 bucks?
    Actually, for me it is $4.07 for Camel Turkish Gold.
    I remember when it was $2.35 for Marlboro Reds.

    Drugs, I can't say much about. I've expiermented, but stay away because it's expensive (it's fun though ).

    I like the convetional wisdom, or whatever to that point. That I know some about residing in a small town. I prefer bigger towns / cities, but I live in a small one. This is the way it has to be. This is what is right, and this is what is wrong. That way of thinking tends to get annoying. Yes? Another thing I think of when I hear "conventional wisdom" is older people:

    Remember that thing I did thirty years ago?
    Respect me for it!

    Liberal, all the way.
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    >>heroine addiction can be beat after 8 days of hell.

    LOL!

    Stick to what you know, Sayeh.

    You have obviously never helped someone thru addiction or dealt with it yourself. It does not magically disappear after 8 days. You are lucky to recover in a year and it is a life time commitment to staying clean. Remember these are habits developed over years or decades.
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    god...you people

    why have you all created this 'Politically Correct' society?
    screw it all! who cares about the people who are prostitutes on the streets? it's their problem! they're the ones who decided to take school as a joke and waste money on drugs. not me! stop trying to help these stupid people! they deserve the life that they wanted!

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    and...minesweeper--you are freaking MAD!

    PPL in this country DO go out and get lashed on a Fri/Sat night.................................and EVERYWHERE else in the world FOO!

    The yopung girls do get lashed and need help to get in a taxi....in an ideal world that is safe from weirdo's/rapists etc...there is no problem.

    The same people will wake up and not bother boozing again till next weekend-they are not fuelled by alcohol..

    It is the aged drinking laws that are to blame...we have a culture of drinking fast because we KNOW the place shuts at 11pm....SO we rush the beers.

    Try the continent and you will se the relaxed laws on boozing
    Fountain.....it's clear that you have completely misunderstood my post.

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