Drugs, sex, freindship, and suside.

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    Re: Drugs, sex, freindship, and suside.

    Originally posted by Sentaku senshi
    Please read my entire post before you put words In my mouth, say I am something, and flame me.

    A few years ago I belived in what sociaty told me was moral and immoral. I belived that people had sex before mariage were immoral. That smoking and drinking were immoral activies for people that are underage. I belived that someone who is in school sports was moral, and should be respected and those kids against the wall with cigirates are to be avoid because all they want to do to get you hooked.

    Life however seems to be diffent.

    I work with those people who stand against the wall with the cigirate in there mouth. Never once have the even tried to get me to smoke, and have only done the opposite and threatend me not to smoke. I know people who have lost there virginity by the age of 14. I know people who have sold there body on the street. These people are among the nicest people I know, I owe some of them for the countless time they have stood up for me.

    Time and time again you hear of how teasing has driven teens to commmite suicide or worse kill others. Time and time again the people who push people over the edge are the Jocks, and other groups sociaty belives to be 'moral'. If your the reason someone kills them selve how are you 'moral'?

    I myself don't do drugs and I'm a virgin. I how ever don't look down on those who do, but instead offer any support I can.
    Look at it this way. Their only chance of not turning out to be big time loosers in life is about as great as your chances at winning a spelling bee contest.

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    "What happens if God sends you to hell for taking cocaine?"

    Heh, you live up to your name rather well.

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    > Heh, you live up to your name rather well.

    I love when people seem to think that's an insult... Like when people write into somethingawful and say "Boy, your site really is SOMETHING AWFUL ROTFLELFLEOLFOLFELL k thx bye"

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    Pardon me?

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    I didn't mean you specifically... It's just that I've seen a few people say that same sort of thing in a non-joking manner whenever Dean trolls...

    "TrollKing, huh? Looks like you picked the right name, as you are a troll!"

    It's amusing.

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    I wasn't attempting to insult, of course he chose the name deliberately, fully intending to Troll.

    I merely said it, to demonstrate I realised that the post was meant as a troll (he seems to actually believe in what he says in some of his posts).

    The line was "said", with a grin.

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    That's what I meant when I said it wasn't directed at you....

    Aww, fsck it, I don't care - take it however you want. It's Friday, my poison ivy's fading, and I'm going to get toasted and play NES games all night.


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    Drug use only leads to crime because drugs are illegal, look at the countries that have legalized drugs, much lower crime rates. Second, people don't die from most of the popular drugs, they die from over dosing on stuff that isnt pure, or from taking stuff that isnt what they thought it was. If drugs were legal and regulated these problems would go away. Third which is it easier to get, alcohol, which is legal but regulated, or something like pot. Its a hell of a lot easier to get pot, why because its illegal.

    On a side note, a majority of the people in the US prison system are in jail for non-violent drug related offenses, if you legalize drugs, many of the problems with our justice system would be fixed as well. If people want to use drugs, then let them, they are only screwing up themselves.

    and just as a quick reply to to the orignal topic, another author you might want to read is Nietzche, specificly the stuff that he writes about determining morality after the rejection of basic judeo-christian morality

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    > Third which is it easier to get, alcohol, which is legal but regulated, or something like pot. Its a hell of a lot easier to get pot, why because its illegal.

    I don't know about you, but after I get out of work in a few minutes, I'm driving to my local grocery store to buy beer... I can't exactly do that with weed.

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    Maybe he's reffering to minors, its concieveable that it could be harder to get hold of alcohol, in places that are quite strict, than weed.

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    i disagree somewhat with your views, darlen. drugs aren't immoral, but they can make people do immoral things. marajuana has a case for legality, mostly based on the fact that it's a low-impact drug. drugs like cocaine, pcp, and lsd are high-impact drugs and can cause people to become very violent, crazy, or both. no legalization of high-impact drugs will help out matters.

    Drug use only leads to crime because drugs are illegal,
    that's partly true. drugs can also make people violent.

    they die from over dosing on stuff that isnt pure
    what about alcohol? plenty overdose on that, and it's legal.

    If drugs were legal and regulated these problems would go away
    drug regulation was created to try to solve some of these problems. were these problems less severe back in the 19th century? look at the opium war. look at prohibition in the 20th century. (granted, prohibition didn't work, but there was enough of a problem to give it enough support to make it law).
    If people want to use drugs, then let them, they are only screwing up themselves.
    what about the people in that neighborhood? who wants to live with people who are unpredictable and violent? drugs have addictive properties, which also reduce that person's sense of duty to his/her community. addiction means, in a way, that you put your drug above more important matters.

    On a side note, a majority of the people in the US prison system are in jail for non-violent drug related offenses, if you legalize drugs, many of the problems with our justice system would be fixed as well.
    i have to agree here. drug use isn't a crime, it's a problem that needs to be dealt with. sentencing should deal less with terms in jail and more in rehab centers.

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    drugs like cocaine, pcp, and lsd are high-impact drugs and can cause people to become very violent, crazy, or both
    I agree with you on pcp, it does tend to make people violent, but i havent heard about cocaine or lsd making you violent, they might make you do some strange things but not violent. And you can treat people acting like that the same way we treat it with alcohol, penalties / fines / jail time for being drunk in public

    what about alcohol? plenty overdose on that, and it's legal.
    actually it requires quite alot of alcohol to OD, and the number of people who do each year is quite low. Mostly its college kids who are getting there first taste of alcohol and freedom from parents. And like i said, drugs when they are pure, and you know what you are taking are not as easy to OD on as they are now.


    Clyde, and Govt, yes I was reffering to minors. I know that if i wanted to get some pot it would be really easy, just go up to the right people durring the day. Its alot harder to get alcohol if your a minor.

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    i have to agree here. drug use isn't a crime, it's a problem that needs to be dealt with. sentencing should deal less with terms in jail and more in rehab centers.
    Well, yes it is a crime. At least where I live. Why should I pay money to help people who have screwed up their lives of their own free will recover in expensive rehab centers (and trust me, all rehab efforts are expensive as hell).
    Actually, let me rephrase that. I would, and do, gladly pay money to help people rehabilitate. But I do not think that I should be forced to pay money to help screwups.
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    " Why should I pay money to help people who have screwed up their lives of their own free will recover in expensive rehab centers "

    If drugs were legalised the amount of money the government would make in tax would easily pay for rehab centres/health care.

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    >Why should I pay money to help people who have screwed up their lives of their own free will recover in expensive rehab centers (and trust me, all rehab efforts are expensive as hell).
    Actually, let me rephrase that. I would, and do, gladly pay money to help people rehabilitate. But I do not think that I should be forced to pay money to help screwups.<

    I'd have to agree, although I'm glad not everyone feels the same as we two do (and that they should choose take action). Think what would happen if the people who didn't have children stop paying taxes that fund public education. Rehab for drug addicts is in good sight for the well-being of everyone. The more people not using hard drugs that take over their lives, the more people who will be productive...well, in theory.
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