(Mods) Flame wars and trolls

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    (Mods) Flame wars and trolls

    This post is for the moderators.

    In recent months I've noticed an increase in trolls who cause trouble on the C and C++ boards. The resulting flame wars are acceptable in the GD board, but are completely inappropriate for the help boards. As such, I request that they be moderated in a more strict manner to remove offensive posts that add nothing substantial when they are first posted. It is getting so bad that those seeking help are being hurt by them.

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    I know what you mean... some people here get a kick out of starting arguments...

    I too, am becoming utterly tired of certain people calling beginners with legitimate questions stupid... shooting down other people's ideas, and being hyper-critical to other's work (mostly towards the poor beginners)

    bah!

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    And yes, although I have only been here a few months, the overall meanness of the board has gone way up from what I've seen in this semi-short time

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    You ought've been here since way back when...

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    >and being hyper-critical to other's work
    There's nothing wrong with well intentioned hazing, it's enjoyable and helps to drive a point home for someone who is learning. This is healthy and useful, even though some confuse it for arrogance and cruelty. What I'm talking about is personal attacks which do absolutely nothing to help someone learn. They are meant only to hurt and it bothers me very much. If you are curious about the distinction, I can offer examples of the good kind of rough and tumble (generously and liberally provided by quzah).

    >You ought've been here since way back when...
    I heard about some of the holy wars way back when. Though I seriously doubt they were held in an area meant for instruction and not for off-topic banter.

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    Re: (Mods) Flame wars and trolls

    Originally posted by Prelude
    This post is for the moderators.

    In recent months I've noticed an increase in trolls who cause trouble on the C and C++ boards. The resulting flame wars are acceptable in the GD board, but are completely inappropriate for the help boards. As such, I request that they be moderated in a more strict manner to remove offensive posts that add nothing substantial when they are first posted. It is getting so bad that those seeking help are being hurt by them.

    -Prelude
    I have been polling for this action to take place for a long time, but the moderators and the webmaster claim that they want a democratic board. I have never heard such a stupid thing before, I'm with you 100%. We need one person to decide what is right and what is wrong!!! I will volunteer as that person because I have the Talmud nearby and it will guide me. The first action is that I should be knighted. I also need to unite with a virgin female in her late teens. She will be transformed into a unicorn and I will be blessed. I have been polling for this for some time. Maybe now it will finally come to pass.

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    on a related topic, it seems that newbies here post with profound fear for their lives (or at least ridicule). they start off saying they're newbies, show their code (sometimes without code tags, and sometimes irreversably flawed), and beg for assistance. i have to agree that there should be a more newbie-friendly attitude in the c/c++ areas.

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    Re: Re: (Mods) Flame wars and trolls

    Originally posted by Troll_King


    I have been polling for this action to take place for a long time, but the moderators and the webmaster claim that they want a democratic board. I have never heard such a stupid thing before, I'm with you 100%. We need one person to decide what is right and what is wrong!!! I will volunteer as that person because I have the Talmud nearby and it will guide me. The first action is that I should be knighted. I also need to unite with a virgin female in her late teens. She will be transformed into a unicorn and I will be blessed. I have been polling for this for some time. Maybe now it will finally come to pass.
    Ha ha ha!!! That is too funny Troll_King!

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    >We need one person to decide what is right and what is wrong!!!
    Well, not quite that strict. A little bit more of Salem's decisive death-mod would work wonders though.

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    This is what we should do. Whenever someone comes to the board and is deemed a first time visitor (no cookie sounds the easiest), a popup should come up explaining to them to search the board, use code tags, ect... I don't know if this is possible though b/c I don't know the code for this board.

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    >This is what we should do.
    What does this have to do with trolls causing trouble? New members learn such things quickly enough as it is.

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    It would also be nice if it was forbidden to post twice in a row. The edit button is actually existent for a reason-one known only to the legendary script programmers of yore (apparently), who seemed to come up (undoubtedly due to divine inspiration) with a surprising quantity of features that were intended for the convenience of posters, mods, and webmasters alike...Just a pet peeve.

    I too, am becoming utterly tired of certain people calling beginners with legitimate questions stupid... shooting down other people's ideas, and being hyper-critical to other's work (mostly towards the poor beginners)
    I don't see that happening very often here at all. What you read as 'hyper-critical' is probably meant as 'helpful.', and as 'shooting down of other people's ideas' as saying "that's not a good way to do x."
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    If someone is flaming, ban for them a while. If they come back and are still flaming just ban them for good. End of story. This is a case where things don't have to be fair, and where the moderator can be judge, jury and I'll stop rambling now.
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    The only problem with doing that, is all the best programmers would be banned and this place would quickly go down hill.

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    >The only problem with doing that, is all the best programmers would be banned and this place would quickly go down hill.

    you missed my point, the banning doesn't need to be done fairly. Banning a good programmer would be stupid even if he does flame, just ban idiots who flame. Its not fair, but it works.
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