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Against/For Java???

This is a discussion on Against/For Java??? within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; I just read that they are predicting Java to overtake C/C++ in 2002 and I thought of what this site ...

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    Against/For Java???

    I just read that they are predicting Java to overtake C/C++ in 2002 and I thought of what this site would think about that (being a C/C++ resource). So, I decided to see a poll to hear what people think of Java.
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    I give you 1 week and then the poll closes and we can make a decision on what this site, cprogramming, thinks of Java.
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    5|-|1+|-|34|) ober's Avatar
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    wait, wait, wait... I thought I heard somewhere that Java wasn't even going to be supported by XP... or something like that.

    Either way, DOWN WITH JAVA!!

    (I'm not a fan)

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    Where'd you read that? Sounds kinda optimistic, if not just because you'd be a total fool to use Java for anything besides a web app.

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    Yes, that's the spirit! Java has to walk the plank. Java is going down! Vote, vote against Java!

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    I can't remember where I read that... I think it was on slashdot when the first beta versions were coming out and people were b1tching about it not being there.

    Personally, I don't know why anyone would use it beyond, like you said, a web app. And even then, why bother? There's better options available.

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    The psuedo-platform independance is nice, tho. Plus, I have to use it for a class, so I guess I can't hate it too vehemently.

    oh - I meant where did garfield read that... I've heard what you said, ober....

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    >>XP

    I think that M$ is not supplying th vm with its new OS's. As far as I know this was decided with sun's consent. When you try run an applet, you will have a choice of downloading suns vm or another from M$.....It just wont be on the disk......


    >>if not just because you'd be a total fool to use Java for anything besides a web app.

    True..its not too good as apps. Applets have limited appeal, but servlets rule!!!!!!!!!!


    I VOTE...UP WITH JAVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    oh... my bad... nevermind.

    Taking Java, huh? How'd you get screwed into that? I luckily got out of it... haha

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    It was recommended under the new curriculum - Java 1 and 2...

    Woulda rather taken Pascal and Sys Prog Con w/ C, but it's too late now...

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    >>Personally, I don't know why anyone would use it beyond, like you said, a web app. And even then, why bother? There's better options available.


    With java for servlets, you get a language that is close to C/C++ that you can use for loads of stuff...

    JDBC makes it easy to work with remote databases....Thread control.....Sockets......

    I love working with it....

    I just created an anonymous emailer that allows you to send emails without supplying your email address....didnt even take much code...4 Classes.....

    The only ***** is the cost of hosting.....I am using a free host at the mo, but it gets really slow at times.....

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    I read about Java overtaking C/C++ at www.programmersheaven.com in an article. I don't believe it, though. Well, at least it won't in my programming world. That's for sure.

    Fordy, I respect your opinion, but do you think that Java can actually have the power to overcome C/C++? Especially with apps. I understand that this age is getting big with the internet, and that's what I thought could've been the Java influence, but it will still never even get close to C/C++. Never!

    AWAY WITH JAVA!!!

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    Are you doing work for yourself Fordy? Why such a complicated setup if it's just for yourself?

    Govt - yeah, you got screwed on that one. I just got done taking Sys Con with C and I already had Pascal under my belt... so I don't have ot take any Java... WOOHOO!

    Sucks to be you...

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    >>Fordy, I respect your opinion, but do you think that Java can actually have the power to overcome C/C++?

    No comparison.....each has its own merits....


    >>Are you doing work for yourself Fordy? Why such a complicated setup if it's just for yourself?

    I'm doing it for fun......Why is it complicated???

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    My memory is kinda foggy on the details but I think that Sun's lawers stop MS from developing there JVM so the version that is available from MS is old..really old. Stupid move from Sun. I think it was a disagrement over the java standard. Sun claims java is an open standard as long as they can decide where it will go. I think thats when MS decided to go there own way with .NET and C#. SO basicly what all this means is that Java is a closed door for MS and they will not develop, support or document anything that have anything to do with it. And look how Java is going down the drain..*SLUURP*

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