The History Of Todays Problem!!

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    The History Of Todays Problem!!


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    A nice neutral view......

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    Like it are not those are the facts.
    I shall call egypt the harmless dragon

    -Isaiah 30.7

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    I rather think not, if you want an objective view, one is provided here:

    http://www.mideastweb.org/BriefHistory.htm

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    Originally posted by Sentaku senshi
    Like it are not those are the facts.
    that real facts !!

    you can check in any book!!

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    I suppose its the fault of the English really........LOL.....ANOTHER POST ABOUT THE SAME TOPIC..........oh man, we have exhausted this more than the UN.

    Lets talk about the weather instead....it rained in UK today......
    Such is life.

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    Its REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY
    HOT

    In Israel!!

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    First off Cyde who was on the land a thousand years ago does not matter.

    Second, both are unbiased your link just has a lot more information. Ireal has has been provocted into all 3 wars, and has been more then willing to make peace. They have signed peace treaty's with Jordan, and Egypt witch resulted in them leaving the Seni Penisala.

    Arafat has been linked to terrorist organizations, and is unable to rule his people.

    Arafaf holds no power in Palistine, he only holds the title of the power. In order to crate peace an international organization would be need to sent in and take control. Isreal giving up the land it caputred in the wars will not work because the organziations that support the sucide attacks want isreal destroyed.
    I shall call egypt the harmless dragon

    -Isaiah 30.7

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    It may be using the facts; but, if the presentation has an ultimate political end, it is not unbiased. This presentation presents only one side of the story: that of the Israelis. The Palestinian side is not shown. I do not mostly disagree with the main argument of this presentation (that the State of Israel has a right to a peaceful existance), but it is crucial to remember that this is very definitely a pro-Israel presentation and not a neutral, unbiased presentation that presents the perspective of all sides in the conflict (even the fanatical, irrational ones).

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    "First off Cyde who was on the land a thousand years ago does not matter"

    True but it can provide an insight into the culture clash between the two sides.

    "Second, both are unbiased your link just has a lot more information"

    Come now, we both know full well that the flash movie did not take a neutral stance.

    "Arafat has been linked to terrorist organizations, and is unable to rule his people"

    Arafat was a terrorist, we all know this, but Sharon is no better.

    "Arafaf holds no power in Palistine, he only holds the title of the power."

    He has some sway, but millitants tend to do whatever they want.

    "In order to crate peace an international organization would be need to sent in and take control. Isreal giving up the land it caputred in the wars will not work because the organziations that support the sucide attacks want isreal destroyed."

    The only solution will be through diplomacy, Sharons tactics of excessive force have suprise suprise failed miserably, through diplomacy a separate Palestinian state can be charted out, and the conflict can finally end. It's nearly happened before, and in the end i suspect it will, unfortuneately there are numerous extremists on both sides who fight to prevent it happening.

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    Yes....

    Israel Tried to find a diplomacy Solution

    BUT!
    while israel talked with them and tried the duplomacy way
    arafat and his friends KILLED israely Civilians...

    FOR EX.
    You are sitting in a CAFE...

    Enjoying your DRINK or some thing
    and then you feel that your self BLOWED????

    and if you didnt died
    you see your family DEAD!!!!
    and MANY Bodies ...
    BLOD!!!!

    what can israel do after this?!!?
    Last edited by GodLike; 07-05-2002 at 04:40 AM.

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    "Israel Tried to find a diplomacy Solution "

    And they came very close with Barak, and decreased the number of suicide attacks.

    "BUT!
    while israel talked with them and tried the duplomacy way
    arafat and his friends KILLED israely Civilians... "

    Neither you nor I know whether Arafat sanctioned militants extremists, however during that stage it seems very unlikely, since their actions damaged his bargaining power and decreased the chances of getting what he wants.

    "what can israel do after this?!!?"

    What they can't do, is go in randomly killing Palestinian civilians that makes them no better than the terrorists, as i said the only solution is through diplomacy.

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    >Arafat was a terrorist, we all know this, but Sharon is no better.

    Sharon is a semi-desent guy the rest of his goverment is who I have a problom with.

    >The only solution will be through diplomacy, Sharons tactics of excessive force have suprise suprise failed miserably, through diplomacy a separate Palestinian state can be charted out, and the conflict can finally end. It's nearly happened before, and in the end i suspect it will, unfortuneately there are numerous extremists on both sides who fight to prevent it happening.<

    Unless control of the extremist groups takes place, anything acomplished by diplomicy is worthless.
    I shall call egypt the harmless dragon

    -Isaiah 30.7

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    "Sharon is a semi-desent guy "

    ..... Sharon is war-crimminal, and a moron, it was he who decided that excessive force was the way to go. We need more Baraks and less Sharons.

    "Unless control of the extremist groups takes place, anything acomplished by diplomicy is worthless"

    The extremists will stop blowing themselves up when they feel blowing themselves up does not increase the chance for Palestinian liberation. The extremists, will subside after that point, they will also lose favour with the people, which will greatly aid attempts to arrest them.

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    "The extremists will stop blowing themselves up when they feel blowing themselves up does not increase the chance for Palestinian liberation. The extremists, will subside after that point, they will also lose favour with the people, which will greatly aid attempts to arrest them."

    I don't know, I think they might blow them selves up for a while.

    Personaly I think the world should be run by kindergardeners, they belive in sharing, being nice, and doing what is correct.
    I shall call egypt the harmless dragon

    -Isaiah 30.7

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