View Poll Results: Who should Kashmir go to?

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  • Kashmir belongs to India

    9 26.47%
  • Pakistan should get Kashmir

    2 5.88%
  • I don't know and i don't care

    8 23.53%
  • Please let there be no war...

    15 44.12%

Who deserves the land?

This is a discussion on Who deserves the land? within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; Kashmir would be screwed as an independant nation, it would lead to more problems. It could not defend itself against ...

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    Kashmir would be screwed as an independant nation, it would lead to more problems. It could not defend itself against its three beligerent, unstable neighbors China, India, and Pakistan. A country like the stupid US would but in and there we go, its just like the whole Palestine/Israel thing. People in that area will hate the US more than ever, and we get more terrorist attacks on our soil. BAD IDEA!

    I think that either the kashmir shold be split up in between Pakistan and China, or it should go to Pakistan. When East and West Pakistan were created for the muslim homelands out of India, the Kashmir leagally belonged to West Pakistan, which is now Pakistan. China, though, also has a legitamate claim to the Kashmir, and the last thing we want to do is ........ off China right as our relations are improving with them. (Yes, thats an American point of view. Maybe others will disagree). China just happens to be out of this dispute, but it is usually in the disputes of the Kashmir.

    India has no claim to this land. It is the source of Pakistan's water supply and the last thing the world needs is a larger dispute between these two nuclear powers. India agreed with the seperation of West and East Pakistan from India, and the Kashmir wsa given away. The Indians are wrong, they should just sit the hell down.

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    "Kashmir would be screwed as an independant nation, it would lead to more problems. It could not defend itself against its three beligerent, unstable neighbors China, India, and Pakistan"

    You think they would invade Kashmir after they agreed to have a referendum!? It's ALREADY split up. A referendum is the solution, let the people decide what to do.

    India is gearing up for war: The prediction is they will attack the camps in Pakistan controlled Kashmir within 2 weeks

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    "A referendum is the solution, let the people decide what to do. "

    We had a referendum over granting a province in my country sovereignty and it resulted in lots of rioting and violence when they voted no.
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    Yea because obviously a referendum in Kashmir would cause MORE violence...

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    >> India is gearing up for war: The prediction is they will attack the camps in Pakistan controlled Kashmir within 2 week

    How do you know, if there are any "camps"? Musharraf is openly asking for UN observers to see the situation and tell the world about it. He is even asking for UN observers to patrol the LoC (Line of control) to see if their is any infiltration into India from this side.

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    I don't really know, but thats what it said on the headlines of the British press.

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    There are terrorists camp on pakistan side.. The world knows this...

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    The rightful path is that of referendum. Let the people of Kashmir decide what they want. Who are we to decide their fate.
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    Originally posted by vasanth
    There are terrorists camp on pakistan side.. The world knows this...
    There are terrorists in India too. There are terrorists in every country. But that has nothing to do with who has the rightfull claim to the land. Read my earlier post.
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    The rightful path is that of referendum. Let the people of Kashmir decide what they want. Who are we to decide their fate.
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    I agree with that!
    I think we established that a referendum is a horrible idea. Do you know your history? This seems eerily similar to the whole Israel issue if someoen decides to let that happen. Besides, Pakistan and India will still fight over it even if it is a free state.

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    "I think we established that a referendum is a horrible idea"

    I think you need to stop smoking whatever it is your smoking, before you talk about international affairs.

    "This seems eerily similar to the whole Israel issue if someoen decides to let that happen"

    ..... its nothing like Israel.

    "Besides, Pakistan and India will still fight over it even if it is a free state"

    Not if THEY agree to hold a referendum they won't, Pakistan already backs a referendum.

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    Originally posted by Clyde
    "This seems eerily similar to the whole Israel issue if someoen decides to let that happen"

    ..... its nothing like Israel.
    I'd disagree there. Is it the same as Israel/Palestine? No. Similar? Yes, in that India can only continue to rule Kashmir through repressive measures, and that breeds (not justifies) terrorism. Israel seems unable to learn that continuing repression of the Palestinians doesn't make them more docile or amenable to Israeli dictates, but in fact creates more terrorists and more importantly, support for them.
    The similar situation will/would/has occured in Kashmir. Religious/political/yada yada fanatics only gain support when oppressed. But if that's what the people want...they'll get it.
    You can't beat people into agreeing with your side. You usualy can't argue with them. Show them by example. This is one reason capitalism has won out over communism. Not that capitalism is perfect, or can't be improved, but that people in capitalist countries in general have a better life than those in communist countries.
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    There is no way that this settlement is going to stop until the stinking US puts it's stinking nose in this stinking situation. US is probably going to divide the land in 2 and give it to the 2 countries, but still i would like both countries to try to solve this matter with out the US................
    As long as there is no war, i am happy..............
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    What I meant by similar to Israel is the situation the new state would be in. It is surrounded by 3 unstable countries that would love to get their greedy little hands on the land. Remember when Israel was created? 6 countries declared war on it in the first 12 hours. Your arguement was if they agreed they wouldn't fight it. True, but you are assuming they will sign that. They will split the Kashmir before making it a free state.
    There is no way that this settlement is going to stop until the stinking US puts it's stinking nose in this stinking situation.
    This is exactly why we are hated in the middle east. That's just what we need, more motive for terrorist attacks on this country. The US has no right to be there as far as most middle eastern countries are concerned. Referendum would worsen the situation.
    "I think we established that a referendum is a horrible idea"

    I think you need to stop smoking whatever it is your smoking, before you talk about international affairs.
    I was refering to the previous posts dumbass.

    BOTTOM LINE- India has no right to this land. It's their fault this whole mess was started. When West Pakistan (now Pakistan) was formed, INDIA AGREED TO GIVE THE KASHMIR TO WEST PAKISTAN!!! Why are we even having the arguement who deserves the land? It's a blatently obvious answer. Stupid India.

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    There are terrorists in every country.
    That is not true. As far as I know that in Slovenia, Austria, Croatia, Hungary, Netherlands, ................. there are no terrorists.
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    BOTTOM LINE- India has no right to this land.
    Yeah, we have no right over Kashmir which has been under Indian governance for more than 50 years.


    It's their fault this whole mess was started.
    OK just for the sake of argument lets say ''its India's fault''. So guess what does the Pakistan military and ISI [their intelligence agency] does... gives arms, aids, land, logistics etc support to misleaded Kashmiri youth and call foreign and Pakistani militants to train and start terrorist acts in the name of "jihad" and thus kill innocent people.


    INDIA AGREED TO GIVE THE KASHMIR TO WEST PAKISTAN!!!
    Wha ?? When ?? Hey why didn't anybody tell us about this.

    You must be smoking somthing strange?


    Another thing... China is in the picture only because it supports Pakistan and if the Pakistani want to give their land to China its up them. I dont think that the Chinese have claimed Kashmir as their land.

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