Thread: the us constitution

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    the us constitution


    I'm an amendment to be
    Yes, an amendment to be
    And I'm hoping that
    They'll ratify me

    There's a lot of flag burners
    Who have got too much freedom
    I want to make it legal
    For policemen to beat 'em

    'Cause there's limits on our liberties
    'Least I hope and pray that there are
    'Cause those liberal freaks go too far

    "But what if they say you're not good enough to be in the Constitution?"

    Then I'll crush all opposition to me
    And I'll make Ted Kennedy pay
    If he fights back, I'll say that he's gay


    spur of the moment post. obviously it comes from the simpsons..

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    I'll quote "The American President" which i just saw recently...

    "If you want to live in a nation where all people are free you cannont just let a flag be that symbol. You have to let someone burning that flag in protest be your symbol too"

    If they want to burn it fine, I may not respect them as much, but if that's how they want to protest who am I to tell them they can't? They're not hurting me nor destroying anyone's property except their own (assuming they bought the flag themselves.)
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    Flag Burning

    Right, the flag is not a symbol of freedom, or it may be to americans like us. But it's a symbol of hate , oppression, war, and murder to those who it has suppressed, example: The people in mexico and the middle eastern world, hate us because we allow nike and other multi-national companyies to go in, and feed off there labor. I personely think that is wrong and a country who allows this does not represent freedom, therefore there flag doesn't either.
    "What this country needs is more free speech worth listening to." - -Hansell B. Duckett

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    LoL, I'm surprised this is turning into a real discussion.
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    better burning flags then buildings, atleast its a fairly harmless for someone to vent their anger(or bordom).

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    howdy,
    the right to free speech is absolute, with it comes the right to protect the very symbol of that freedom, those of us that have gone a little farther to protect these freedoms than others also have the right to beat the hell out of some pin head that thinks burning the American Flag is his right.
    all of that said, we may have opressed other countries BUT we are also the most charitable country on this planet, next time you have a disaster in your home town get on the phone to Mexico and ask them to air lift in some food or troops or maybe you would choose Isreal im sure they would send several millions of the dollars we donate to them back as aid to YOUR home town.
    NO flag burning is not a right of free speech, it is a disgusting abuse of it!

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    The flag is only a piece of cloth. It is not the flag that is the true symbol of America, it is the people who fought and those who died to protect her, the proof that our way of life, our way of living , our way of thinking is right. The flag is nothing, it is the people who hold the flag that is the symbol of our great democracy; it is the people who toil everyday under the flag who create our democracy. The flag is just stitches, it is the people who go without seeing their families for 6 months, or even longer on end who hold America together. The flag is just cloth, and when we salute it, we do not salute a piece of cloth, we give our repsects and pay homage to those who have come before us who paid the ultimate price for our way of life. For this truly is America.

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    i side with traveller on this one. the fact that this has turned into a real thread instead of the simpsons-worshipping thread i wanted it to be is ... weird. i'm scared.

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    "the right to free speech is absolute"

    Actually, i have a feeling it's not.

    If people want to burn any nations flag, let em, its just a freaking flag, a piece of cloth.

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    Burning a flag is an insult to people who support that country, just like sticking your middle finger up.

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    "Burning a flag is an insult to people who support that country, just like sticking your middle finger up."

    Sure, I agree with that, thats not to say that people should be STOPPED from putting their finger up, neither should they be stopped from burning a flag.

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    Yeah I am just saying they should not come running to me if they get punched in the nose.

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    the idea that the American flag is worth no more than the cloth it is made out of or the Constitution is worth no more than the paper it is written on is a travisty.
    a huge price was and has been paid for the freedoms we enjoy and at LEAST the symbols of those freedoms should be exempt from destruction by those that may never have to protect them and probably wouldnt should the call come.

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    Originally posted by itld
    a huge price was and has been paid for the freedoms we enjoy

    You what...?

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    You what...?
    me persomally... i've had people that i dont even care to know find it necessary to shoot ground to air missles at the helicopter i was riding in, of course in those days nobody would admit the East Germans were shooting at us.
    i own my own company so i pay a LARGE amount od taxes to the "Republic for which it stands.."
    i see the guys with no arms, no legs, and no minds sleeping on the streets because no one cares that they got blown up in Asia, or France or Germany.
    The huge price of maintaining a FREE country is paid everyday not only by me but by everyone that "participates" in those freedoms.
    i see a big difference in participation and free loading, however both are just fine in this country.

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