we cannot measure pain in the number of human lives. i would feel much more grief if my family all died than i do for the many more who die overseas. it's human nature. would the parade of people over the queen mother's death have happened if the person who had died was just another ~100 year old english woman? am i supposed to feel empathy for every living human being on the planet? some people die. period.
"i stand by that statement. in losing 5000 citizens we have made the lives of all afghani people better. fewer die. "
Then i stand by my statement that you are a fool. If you don't care that 5000 innocent people were killed you are saying that it DOESN'T MATTER, who cares if 5,000 innocent people died, who cares if 10,000 died, 20,000, who gives a damn right?
You ****ing should care, do you think you would care if it was your family that was killed?
what about the military? shall we care for their deaths, too? on memorial day we don't grieve for their loss, we celebrate their sacrifice. their deaths don't matter, it's their accomplishments. their souls rest in what they have accomplished.
Is it OK for me to say that I don't care that 3,000 innocent people died in the towers? Of course it's not, i'd have to be an immoral subhuman to claim so, every person matters, every civilian casuality matters.
you have to look at the whole picture. 5000 is nothing. 3000 is nothing. look at how many people die daily from simple things such as heat exhaustion.
And people wonder why there is anti American feeling, christ.
Oh and don't even try to pretend that helping the Afghani people had anything to do with the military operation to get AlQueida. It didn't, if the Afghans benfit i'm sure that the USA will take the credit, if it ****s up and they're lives are wrecked again then no doubt the USA will wash their whole hands of it, just like they did when THEY PUT THE TALIBAN IN POWER, and say its none of their concern.
For the record I fully support the actions taken against the Taliban and AlQuedia, but idiots who claim that "don't care" that innocent people die, when sitting in their nice air conditioned houses, ........ me off.
she was clinton's secretary of state. and she held office. why do you even ask such questions? let's not show off with facts we think the other doesn't know.
Actually it is GWB, even M Albright can't understand GWB's foreign policy! (you do know what office she holds don't you)
good question. since we have throughly insulted your countries with our refusals to help and our actions which may hurt others, why does your country still side with us?
So why should we overseas care about Americans?
oh, the horrors of being rude! your country doesn't exist to spread civilization. your government exists to further the interests of your own people. congress does just that. we as a people don't hate other countries, with exception to those that attack us. honestly, we don't care if you hate us. your opinion doesn't matter to us. you may say whatever you wish inside our country, including burning the american flag. we (as people) might watch, and we might agree. then we get back to work and forget about you.
Lets rip them off at every opportunity. Make the world such a dangerous and rude place that they never leave the US. Ensure they all know they are not welcome in our countries, because here they will be treated here as your congress treats our countries.
i agree. it is a good idea to be diplomatic. but we aren't.
If you act like the spoilt selfish child then you should be treated like one.
Is that the world you want? It is not one I want to live in but we must all consider the effects of our actions on others.
i have no reason to doubt you. just remember that all members of our military joined of their own free will.
And by the way, your military consists of 5% foreigners. After their term of service you do not even guarantee them citizenship! (they can apply but must pay their own way!) If you don't believe, this look it up, prove me wrong.
take advantage? how?
>>they like Novican would have taken our money and shown no respect for us as acountry or as individuals.
You have to earn respect
I make one comment that I _can_ take advantage of Americans to give you a mirror to your actions, NOT THAT I DO.
we made a mistake. we ducked out too early, and left a broken nation. hindsight is 20:20.
And what I am saying is if you had spent US$64bill on Afghanistan after the USSR / US conflict, there would have been no Taliban or Al Queda. But you refused to help after the CIA had trained and armed the clans.
in short: americans don't value kindness. we value freedom.