Why america sucks

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    >> Screw u loser americas the best damn place on earth

    that's not the way I c it........
    oh i'm sorry! i didn;t realize my fist was rushing to meet ur face!

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    Re: >> Screw u loser americas the best damn place on earth

    Originally posted by Commander
    that's not the way I c it........
    Chill, my canadian brother, you've got the legal drinking age of 19, which makes me cross through your customs plenty of times and visit your country.

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    >>Yeah, but you also have Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin, so it's a trade off, just like the USA's right to bear arms being counter weighted by Carrot Top.

    Hey wait a minute there.
    Both thier imcomes are paied for by American dollers.
    And as for Steve Irwin the first time I ever heard of him was when he was mentioned on an episode of South Park, an AMERICAN tv show.
    So don't blame those two on us, Australia's a big place, we're happy to let a few crazies run around playing with the wild life, it doesn't hurt anyone. You Americans are the people who made them famous.
    If you own a piece of land and there is an volcano on it and it ruins a
    nearby town, do you have to pay for the property damage?

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    >> Chill, my canadian brother, you've got the legal drinking age of 19, which makes m

    lol....I guess you don't try that any more......unless you have countless hours to get pass the security.... ...
    oh i'm sorry! i didn;t realize my fist was rushing to meet ur face!

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    Originally posted by shtarker
    >>Yeah, but you also have Paul Hogan and Steve Irwin, so it's a trade off, just like the USA's right to bear arms being counter weighted by Carrot Top.

    Hey wait a minute there...
    don't blame those two on us, Australia's a big place, we're happy to let a few crazies run around playing with the wild life, it doesn't hurt anyone.
    Well, if you're willing to let some crazies run around, how about taking Fred Durst off of our hands. We'll promise to keep Hogan and Irwin as a trade; anything to get rid of Durst.

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    Well, if he promised to be good, I'm sure we could find a nice wheat field for him to run around in. . . . .

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    Although you might want to consider England, thats where we send all our horrible singers, Rolf Harris, Kylie Minouge. . . . .
    They really don't seem to mind.
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    Last edited by shtarker; 04-05-2002 at 11:10 PM.
    If you own a piece of land and there is an volcano on it and it ruins a
    nearby town, do you have to pay for the property damage?

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    Descipline in Daily Life of the people in United States

    I like descipline in Daily Life of the people in United States.
    And attention to technology.
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    Originally posted by shtarker

    Although you might want to consider England, thats where we send all our horrible singers, Rolf Harris, Kylie Minouge. . . . .
    They really don't seem to mind.
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    this is true. and your crappy tv shows, especially soaps !!

    "prisoner cell block H" was a cult when i was a student !!!!!!

    but i won't hear a word against Kylie, sure she can't actually sing but what an ass !!
    she's next to royalty over here !!
    Steve

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    Want to hear stereotypes ? Okay, have fun:


    Driving at 16, drinking at 21 ? Come on, that's crazy.

    Guns ? No comment. A public selling automatic weapons to anyone who asks should in my oppinion not be surprised when some sickos actually use them for what they were produced: killing innocents.

    America and to some extend single Americans should learn that a friend is better than someone you bullied. "I do it because you cannot stop me anyway" is not a strategy that makes friends. And a life without friends is quite lonely.

    And the most important thing: America does not own the world. Their laws apply to anything inside America as with all States. Not more. America is just one of them, it doesn't rule nor own the others.



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    "Germany is less and yet more nationalist than we are. they don't wave their flag like we do"

    Ah but that's what matters, nationalism can only divide nations if its present in the mind of the public.

    One of the problems with an extremely nationalistic viewpoint is the way it comes across to others. Nationalism is so bound up with the retoric of American politians that you don't even notice it.

    Let me give you an example:

    When Bush says: "this is a teribble tragedy thousands of American lives were lost"......... the rest of the world HEARS: "this a a terrible tragedy, thouands of Americans died, and Americans are far more important than other people".

    And you see, no other country would phrase it like that, if there was a similar attrocity in England or Germany or France, or anywhere else, their statement would be " this is a terrible tragedy thouands of people's lives were lost".

    You might think thats really nit-picky and irrelevant, but its not. Thats the kind of thing people pick up on.

    America is viewed by many non-Americans as the "microsoft of the world".

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    >One of the problems with an extremely nationalistic viewpoint is
    >the way it comes across to others. Nationalism is so bound up
    >with the retoric of American politians that you don't even notice
    >it.

    I agree. Compared to most European politicians, the American politicians say quite nationalistic things. I don't say that European politicians are less nationalistic, but they don't show such feelings very much.

    Though in Europe there sure is nationalism in politics. Just take a look at the battle for power in the European Union between the UK, Germany, France and Italy.

    >When Bush says: "this is a teribble tragedy thousands of
    >American lives were lost"......... the rest of the world
    >HEARS: "this a a terrible tragedy, thouands of Americans died,
    >and Americans are far more important than other people".

    I think that the reason why American politicians are so nationalistic is because they want to keep the country together. In a very large country it is difficult to keep all people together, to give them the feeling "WE are part of this country". Take a look at Russia, a large country. But many Russians far away from Moscow don't have that feeling. That's one of the reasons there so much troubles in Russia. Many people have the feeling "Moscow is far away and we're not really part of Russia". So local nationalism is growing in such countries.

    In Europe it is easier, we have smaller countries here.

    >America is viewed by many non-Americans as the "microsoft of
    >the world".

    Well, when reading most posts of non-Americans in this thread, I must say I agree. Haven't interviewed others about their opinions on Americans.

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    is this the best you got to hate us?

    THEY'RE NATIONILISTIC! OH MY DEAR LORD NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! THERE THE SPAWN OF SATAN!!!!!!

    screw you.
    why are we nationalistic? WE CAN BE AND WE HAVE A REASON TO BE! so (edited for harshness) if you don't like it.

    we're not perfect but your nothing to look up to, until you and your natons are perfect STFU!

    as for comments reguarding Afganastan,

    WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU! i will refrain from the explosion i almost typed!! just stop making dumbass comments, when you havn't a clue what the heck you are talking about.

    further more,
    The only reasonable response i saw was from Pendragon, she states that even though her family is anti-american they have no "rational" reason so she doesnt fall into the same mindless spirial and "there is no point in irrational comments." if you hate us have a legitimate reason worth hateing someone over.

    so im shutting up... there is so much more i'd like to "enlighten" you about especially (nv)'s comment on guns, and comments reguarding Afganastan but im gonna restrain myself. lata
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    "I think that the reason why American politicians are so nationalistic is because they want to keep the country together. In a very large country it is difficult to keep all people together, to give them the feeling "WE are part of this country". "

    See, i disagree with you there. I really do not believe that nationalism is needed. You are correct that without it there would be much less of a "we are part of this country" feeling.... but thats a good thing!

    Russia does have huge problems, but I don't know how much of them are due to nationalistic feelings (or lack of them) Russia's economic and social problems are IMO the driving forces behind the wish for certain state's to split off.

    "In Europe it is easier, we have smaller countries here. "

    Again, i'm not so sure size makes a difference, Australia IS HUGE, Canada is also huge yet neither of these countries have quite the nationalistic fever that is seen in the US.

    Because the USA is split into states, in terms of management it acts in many ways like a collection of many countries, there is no reason why they would need a overarching nationalistic viewpoint to hold them together. As long as they are better off economically and socially staying a country they will do so. Europe is slowly unifying (see slowly ) not because of super- pro Europe naitonalism but simply because it is advantageous for the member countries involved.
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    "screw you.
    why are we nationalistic? WE CAN BE AND WE HAVE A REASON TO BE! so (edited for harshness) if you don't like it. "

    Do you not see that your responce is EXACTLY why some non-US people have anti-US views.

    "we're not perfect but your nothing to look up to, until you and your natons are perfect STFU! "

    No-one is saying that the rest of the world is perfect, by any means, however the USA is the most powerfull nation in the world as such it is under alot more scrutiny than other countries.

    "i will refrain from the explosion i almost typed!! just stop making dumbass comments, when you havn't a clue what the heck you are talking about. "

    ...........


    "if you hate us have a legitimate reason worth hateing someone over. "

    I don't think anyone here hates America (though I know many people who do).

    What is quite remarkleable is your reaction, which is quite a common one: Many US. people have NO IDEA why they are viewed negatively by some from non-US countries. There are two reasons for this i think;

    1. Is ignorance of what has actually occured in world history, alot of people have VERY good reasons for hateing the US (almost all countries have done bad things in the past, European countries are no different..... however they lacked the power to do some of things America has done, and they don't appear to be as "gung-ho" about previous mistakes)

    2. Is the nationalism thing, if you are brought up a certain way, that seems normal to you, hence you become blind to its effects in a wider context.

    "there is so much more i'd like to "enlighten" you about especially (nv)'s comment on guns, and comments reguarding Afganastan but im gonna restrain myself"

    By all means "enlighten" us.
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    >Do you not see that your responce is EXACTLY why some non-US people have anti-US views.

    no, they act like there's something wrong with nationalism.
    excuse the hell out of me for loving my country and wishing to support it.

    >
    No-one is saying that the rest of the world is perfect, by any means, however the USA is the most powerfull nation in the world as such it is under alot more scrutiny than other countries.
    <

    understood, but it just ticks me off that they ignore the fact they many others do FAR FAR worse, and they sit back and act like its ok then, but when we do it its the worst thing that has ever happend in the entire history of the world, please!

    >
    What is quite remarkleable is your reaction, which is quite a common one: Many US. people have NO IDEA why they are viewed negatively by some from non-US countries. There are two reasons for this i think;
    <

    why is this?

    because most people who hate america have no reason or their "supposed" reason is neglagible, or complete BS, and they as you state about nationalism are raised into it, and have no idea why.

    1.) if your sayin pople have no clue abut anything then that is the fact on both sides U.S. and it's haters the majority of both have no clue.

    2.) maybe for some but not all of us, many of us are not so blind.

    >By all means "enlighten" us.

    i don't have the time nor the inclination to go into a hundred post debate with people that have no clue what the hell they're talking about,

    PLEASE NOTE:

    this statement excludes (nv) since he always has an articluate and reasonable arguement, and Clyde since you seem to have a clue, and anyone who is not yet involved in this or has not said anything stupid in this thread to the subjects at hand.

    i've been in to many arguements in boards where use opinion as fact and have no clue what they are arguing about.

    Enlighten yourselves, at least try to know something about what your going to argue.
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