Elections in America

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    >I don't understand but I think you missed my point. let me clarify. (greenhouse gas == BAD)


    The US produces 1/4 (25%) of the green house gas in the world.

    It has about 1/16 of the worlds poplation.

    Therefore it is producing 4 times more greenhouse gas than it should.

    GWB refuses to do more than reduce this amount to 1/5 (20%) in 5 years.

    The world agreement GWB refused to endorse was the Kyoto protocol.<

    Yes I know that greenhouse gases are bad, but you can't just look at a countries population and say that is how much population they should create. You need to look at how much is produced compared to the pollution.

    Also I agree that George W. Bush should have endorsed the Kyoto protocol

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    >>but you can't just look at a countries population and say that is how much population (pollution, I think you mean) they should create.

    Why not?
    Production is irrelevant. You are saying the rich / powerful have the right to pollute. ("because we sell more we should be allowed to pollute more")

    Cost of cleaning up pollution should be considered a cost of production.
    As it is for product packaging at point of purchase in Germany and recycling / disposal of product after use in Belgium , as I understand. (correct me if I am wrong)

    GovtCheez, saying they did it first, or as well, is not a valid reason. It is an poor excuse from a rich country that could and should set an example in the global market.

    I am yet to see the Japanese PM spreading propaganda that Japan is encouraging 'free and fair trade' as GWB did recently in South America after just increasing subsidies to record levels AND adding more tariffs.
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    US introduces tariffs on steel and then this

    "The EU raised the protective barriers for its steel markets on Wednesday in response to Washington's decision on March 5 to impose tariffs, saying it needed to protect itself from a surge of shipments barred from the United States."

    This is the effect that GWB is having on world trade. Least the EU has a large and diverse enough trading base to offset the tariffs. Most of us don't.
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    And the american corporates are aiming at India to sell their products because we have the worlds 2nd population of 1000+ million.. Well and pollute india by shipping the wastage generated there...

    Why does America always think it is the big boss.. Be it both comercial and political.....

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    Originally posted by vasanth

    Why does America always think it is the big boss.. Be it both comercial and political.....
    because it is !!!!
    ALL countries do whats best for themselves, looking after number one first.
    The only reason America comes in for so much stick is that they are so powerful they tread on a lot more toes than less powerful countries.

    But i do notice that the average American is too patriotic, you can't criticise their country without them going ape**** !!!
    And they are probably the most ignorant people with regard to knowledge of other counties histories/culture/point of view.
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    Wtf happened, this was an interesting thread, come on govt say something, your just gonna let him get away with that?
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    i think govt is on vacation or something

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    Govt's at school...

    Fine - novacain - you're a doodyhead. I know that because Japan (and plenty of other countries) do very similar things isn't an excuse, but I was just trying to make the point that you can't really single out the US for doing something that's practiced by most countries.

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    >American democrats ...
    only they would think of this...

    >Michael Jackson will be present, Bill Clinton will be present with his saxophone....
    this is a very scary combo.

    >and the festival should collect millions of dollars!
    they expect to MAKE money with those two???

    >I was wondering, why do you American spend so much money on election campaigns?
    It's something in the water system, maybe terrorist have poisoned us.
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    >>novacain - you're a doodyhead.

    Insults, no better argument left?

    The reason I single out the US is thing like this;
    (from the BBC)
    "The international row over steel tariffs has intensified, with US trade representative Robert Zoellick condemning the EU 's response to America's action."

    The US can put up tariffs but if someone else does they are wrong?

    Your Mr Zoellick has been here spreading cheer as well. Apparently our quarantine laws are trade restrictive, because we are trying to preserve our 'clean and green' status. We, being an isolated island, don't have a lot of the common pests or diseases and are benefiting from that. (No Foot and Mouth, Mad Cow or rabbies(?) ect )

    The US wants us to stop protecting our unique native wildlife (from things like fire ants) and let in anything in the name of free trade (which of course the US is the champion of at the moment).

    Can you see why we are annoyed?
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    > Insults, no better argument left?

    Jesus, take a joke, will ya?

    And to tell the truth, I could see there was nothing I could possibly say to make you see things my way, so that's why I stopped replying.

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    >But i do notice that the average American is too patriotic, you
    >can't criticise their country without them going ape**** !!!

    When it comes to the point, everyone is patriotic. Just take a look at what's happening what we have here in Europe when European football championships are being played.

    >And they are probably the most ignorant people with regard to
    >knowledge of other counties histories/culture/point of view.

    I think that most Americans know less about Europe than Europeans know about America. But I don't know if that's ignorance. Perhaps it's because America is more in the news than for example Finland, Ukrain or Slowakia. How much do you know about those countries? How much do you know about what's going on in the Netherlands?

    In holidays I like to travel through Europe and when talking with locals, I often notice that many Europeans don't know very much about other European countries. They know about America, since that's in the news. Just like Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia and Russia.

    Countries that are in the news rarely, are quite unknown. And many countries are just known from one thing, since that thing caused the country to be in the news.

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    good point(s).

    i did read about a recent survey of American kids, and 1/3 of them thought London was the capital of France !!
    and most didn't know who America'S enemies were in WW2 !!
    this was when Pearl Harbour came out, most didn't know that the US fought Japan !!! they didn't know about it, some thought it was fiction !!! frightening.
    still, a recent survey of English kids......... 10% thought Hitlers first name was Heil !!!!
    Steve

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