Anti-Copy Bill Slams Coders

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    >copyright protection is given to all original works, published or unpublished! I believe that this law would directly violate my personal rights.<

    You're right. I just hope this is brought to Congress's attention...

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    haven't you people ever heard of Itellectual Property laws?

    by law, if you THINK of something before someone else, the idea belongs to you! what the hell is that?

    (you also can't take a shower naked in florida legally or play the fiddle in boston legally, go figure)

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    >>the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America hailed the CBDTPA as the only way to prevent the continuing Napsterization of their businesses.

    The big corporations want it. Be careful they don't, as is usual, get it.
    Remember, they don't want open source, they want you to pay for all data and want to be able to sell video and music directly on the net.

    Will apply to all DIGITAL data, including programs, music, and images.
    Think of the additional costs of compliance. Who will be able to afford it and who wont? Who pays to put your politicians in the white house? Who will get what they want?

    >>copyright protection is given to all original works, published or unpublished!

    Ha ha ha. Only if a you can prove the loss of income, no loss no copyright infringement is enforceable, let alone the cost of the lawyers.
    Regardless you will not be able to distribute your work without the data protection. Just as you can not copyright an illegal / malicious program (ie a trojan), you will not be able to copyright your work without a compilance with the new CBDTPA.

    Remember, it has just become law in the US, that if I send someone in another country a virus and it passes thru a US server on the way, I am liable for prosecution in the US.
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    > how many of you will mail a letter or e-mail to your senators? (of course i'm talking to americans only)

    Did last night.

    If you're under 18 - lie. They're not gonna care if you can't vote.

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    this sounds just like the SSSCA which in fact was mostly authored by whom????DISNEY!!!!!!!!!! who if you had payed attention you would already know was evil.

    but the SSSCA died in the US House of Representatives' Judiciary Committee and it did virtually the same thing so i doubt this will get through either.

    >but i live in canada, so it wont effect me...

    you'd like to think that, but try and release software without copy protrction here and see what happens, another thing you may not realize is a lot of other contries will follow suit unfortunatly.

    > No - a web page isn't a program.

    some people might beg to differ.

    untill they see the extremes this can be taken to(like the DMCA for example) they will not realize the ramifications.

    ok this bill is a contridiction in itself when it comes to opensource and in the end open source will lose and vanish, and another thing you might want to know, theirs talk of a bill that will make companies(eg also lone programmers) liable for faulty or insecure software, so in theory if you copy protection does not work then you may be held responsible for the actions of all its users and therefore SCREWED FOR LIFE!

    btw: it this **** passes i may just quit.

    actually thats not a bad idea! do you realize what would happened it programmers went on strike!
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    >some people might beg to differ.

    I write:
    <marquee>Word up, G-money</marquee>

    and it's a program? It's no different than highlighting crap in word and changing the font. Unless the page uses JSP or something like that, it's not a program.

    > actually thats not a bad idea! do you realize what would happened it programmers went on strike!

    That's actually a sweetass idea.... Is there such thing as a programmers union?

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    I beleive the bill actually covers code, not just programs. So that would include html too. But I wonder wether there is such a thing as copy protection for html... I don't think so.

    <off topic> That would mean, that html would have to be changed, resulting in a new kind of browser that everybody would have to upgrade to. Wich in turn would probably solve all our incompatibilty problems with html, so that wouldn't be a bad thing... </off topic>

    About the strike, ...

    BTW. the article speaks of a "million angry geek march on the capitol", wich would also make a pretty scene... Maybe we could add a little lan party in the senate while we're at it.

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    Would it be possible for one of you or something to make some kind of database and put it online where everyone who's against this could go and put their names and email and then we all send them all this with a letter ofcourse to a congressman or something?
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    > actually thats not a bad idea! do you realize what would happened it programmers went on strike!

    That's actually a sweetass idea.... Is there such thing as a programmers union?
    You suck, I've mentioned that about 3 times here already and noone ever noticed it. Pay attention to meeee!! Look at meee!! Love meee!!!! Bah! I'm going over to flashdaddee to lock lips with hillbillie ::grumble::

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    Well, if this did pass, than your average police officer wouldn't care if somebody was passing around some freeware program they made, but companies such as Adobe might; think of what they could do if they were able to shut down the GIMP.

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    Theres talk of a IT / programmers union in Aust.

    Driven by contractors who are sick of the recruiters taking up to 50% of our wages as a fee.

    If we strike it will mean that they just outsource to say India (as our government threatened).

    Also, if you need this compliance to sell software in the US, making it cheaper to write elsewhere (and more expensive to export US software). What will that do to the US IT industry?

    Will you all just be adding in the secutity to code produced else where?

    >>than your average police officer wouldn't care if somebody was passing around some freeware program
    Point being you could not. Hardware would not run software without the correct protection (until cracked and then everybody would care).
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